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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #840 on: May 14, 2016, 01:18:AM »
Can I believe that a cop can lie?

'Yes'...

Do I believe that cops shot Sheila Downstairs in the kitchen, and that 'hers' was the female body mentioned in the police radio message timed log entries at '7.37am', and '7.38am'?

'Yes'...

Do I believe that the cop operation went 'pearshaped' at 8.15am, when Harris, Gibbons, and Montgomery, entered the kitchen after the 'all clear' shout had been passed by firearm officers inside the premises at 8.10am?

'Yes'...

You're obviously totally deluded then, no wonder all the former posters have gone!!

This case has totally bombed.
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #841 on: May 14, 2016, 04:12:AM »
Wrong!  It was Jeremy Bamber who set the scene, the silly cops just fell for it initially.   ;D
I'm not wrong, your mind is corrupted, fabricating evidence means nothing to any bent cop...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #842 on: May 14, 2016, 04:13:AM »
You're obviously totally deluded then, no wonder all the former posters have gone!!

This case has totally bombed.

So, why are you still here then, on her bike...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #843 on: May 14, 2016, 04:15:AM »
Here is a list of all the police actions during the investigation.
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #844 on: May 14, 2016, 06:55:AM »
I have copies of most hand written and signed police action reports, which I can put dates to, so that everything is put into sequence. Obviously, some 'actions' taking longer than others to be carried out or investigated further...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #845 on: May 14, 2016, 06:57:AM »
I have copies of most hand written and signed police action reports, which I can put dates to, so that everything is put into sequence. Obviously, some 'actions' taking longer than others to be carried out or investigated further...

Where it mentions about the 'taking of statements', I have most of the statements in question, bearing dates...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #846 on: May 14, 2016, 07:00:AM »
David Boutflour did not mention that 'he' had found a silencer to the gun until 'after' 11th September, 1985 - yet we are told the silencer in question had already been examined at the lab' by 'Glynis Howard' on the 13th August 1985, when she could not have because David Boutflour had not reported finding 'it' by that stage, and would not do so for almost 'another month'...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #847 on: May 14, 2016, 07:06:AM »
The 'Hand Swab Evidence', has always intrigued me. I can't help feeling that dodgy cops used 'this' evidence to strengthen the case for Sheila not having handled the additional bullets required for her to be the killer. On the 9th August 1985, the said swabs were rejected at the lab' because they arrived in the same packaging as firearms. At this stage (9th August) they had an exhibit reference of DRH/33, lab' item no. 17. Later when cops decided to resend the swabs, they altered the exhibit reference to DRH/44, with a lab' item no. of 75. This was basically a deception, to get the staff at the lab' to examine them (not for firearm discharge residue, but for lead deposited on her hands)...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #848 on: May 14, 2016, 07:36:AM »
I can now reveal for the very first time a rather 'startling discovery' which renders the handswab evidence, 'voided'...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #849 on: May 14, 2016, 07:37:AM »
I can now reveal for the very first time a rather 'startling discovery' which renders the handswab evidence, 'voided'...

It was basically 'fabricated', a fact provable by the following'observation'...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #850 on: May 14, 2016, 08:00:AM »
In a 'signed' witness statement made by DC Hammersley, dated, the 22nd October, 1985, on page 4, he states that on 'the 13th September, 1985 I caused the exhibit DRH/33 to be forwarded to the forensic Science Laboratory, at Huntingdon'...

But 'that was 'not true', because the driver who took it to the lab' (C. J HARVEY) took it the lab' on the 27th September, 1985. And, more to the point, when he arrived there with 'it', on 'that' date, A Detective Sergeant Lovell accepted 'it' (DRH/33) from him, as can be seen by the signatures, of both Harvey, and Lovell, that both originally dated their signatures with the date, 27th September, but the driver made an attempt to alter the date alongside his signature, into 13th September 1985, to match the fraudulent Laboratory stamp bearing the incorrect date, 13th September, 1985. DS Lovell, on the other hand, left the date alongside his signature (27th September, 1985), thus making a fundamental mistake exposing all parties as co-conspirators, including, DC Hammersley (soco), C. J. Harvey (the driver who took DRH/33 to the lab), as DS Lovell (the officer who accepted DRH/33 from C. J. Harvey, on 'that' (27th September, 1985) date...

It should also be pointed out, that this 'fraudulent' submission form, relating to 'hand swabs' which had already been previously rejected by the lab' on the 9th August, 1985, was created under the supervision, of DS 219, Davidson (soco). So here at long last, is 'clear evidence' that cops involved in the investigation 'tampered with the 'records' pertaining to the resubmission of the hand swabs. If these facts had been known about at the time of the trial, the hand swab evidence would have been thrown out, and almost certainly brought the trial to a halt for the reasons given...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #851 on: May 14, 2016, 08:09:AM »
DC Hammersley should be arrested, interviewed and charged with 'Conspiracy to pervert the course of justice', along with DS Davidson, C.J. Harvey, and DS Lovell, over this matter. Talk about it being a clear case of 'Malfeance in office' has to be an 'understatement. Of course, my discovery should go a long way towards getting J's case back to the court of appeal, because the 'hand swab' evidence was a key part of the prosecutions case, relied upon to demonstrate that Sheila could not possibly have handled the additional bullets required if the crimes had been committed with just one gun...

How can the CCRC reject this 'astonishing' piece of evidence, and fail to refer the case back to the court of appeal?
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #852 on: May 14, 2016, 08:34:AM »
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #853 on: May 14, 2016, 11:12:AM »
Can I believe that a cop can lie?

'Yes'...

Do I believe that cops shot Sheila Downstairs in the kitchen, and that 'hers' was the female body mentioned in the police radio message timed log entries at '7.37am', and '7.38am'?

'Yes'...

Do I believe that the cop operation went 'pearshaped' at 8.15am, when Harris, Gibbons, and Montgomery, entered the kitchen after the 'all clear' shout had been passed by firearm officers inside the premises at 8.10am?

'Yes'...


Mike, over the years, you have provided us with a variety of different stories. Some MAY, temporarily, have been believable, some have been laughable, some have been TOTALLY unbelievable and some have  boardered on being, if not libellous, pornographic. You have sworn that all have been the truth............correction! You have sworn that, at the time of the telling, you have BELIEVED all to be true. That's fine. It's your prerogative. We remain free to exercise our own.

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #854 on: May 14, 2016, 11:52:AM »
Your confusing yourself deliberately, and then expecting me to get you out of the mess you have got yourself into...

Ralph Neville was Sheila's accomplice. He was the scruffy looking hunched man seen walking away from the farm about an hour after cops first arrived there. He didn't kill S, cops shot her and she died from one of those shots...
Which Police Officer reported this? I can“t find it in the archives.