What makes Bamber innocent?

[mike tesko]

That's right, run away from the thread, hide your fucking heads in shame, because those of you in 'that' camp, haven't got a fucking clue about what really goes on, and how corrupted the Criminal justice system really is, and how it endeavours to get the upper hand on victims, like me, like Jeremy, like the Birmingham six, like the Guildford four, and the 96 victims of the Hillsboro' disaster, and many other cases...

There needs to be a 'overhaul' of the Criminal justice system, to stop this 'rot' in its tracks...

Everybody who takes part in a trial, should be 'vulnerable' to the possibility of being convicted there and then for lying and fabricating evidence. Prosecution, and defence witnesses. It is not right or proper for somebody else to make a witness statement for another witness. It is not right that the CPS can edit the contents of witness statements without consulting the maker of the original witness statement...

The 'Citation' at the beginning of each witness statement, is very misleading because more often than not, the named person did not make their own statement...

If they did not make 'their own' witness statement, How (I ask) can they have made such a statement of their own free wiil?

It's a load of 'bollocks'...

[Caroline]

That's right, run away from the thread, hide your fucking heads in shame, because those of you in 'that' camp, haven't got a fucking clue about what really goes on, and how corrupted the Criminal justice system really is, and how it endeavours to get the upper hand on victims, like me, like Jeremy, like the Birmingham six, like the Guildford four, and the 96 victims of the Hillsboro' disaster, and many other cases...

Who is running? And I beg to differ! I certainly DO know cops can be corrupt, but Jeremy is no B6 or G4 and certainly no victim.

[mike tesko]

Who is running? And I beg to differ! I certainly DO know cops can be corrupt, but Jeremy is no B6 or G4 and certainly no victim.

Yes, 'he is'...

Cops staged his sisters body in the bedroom with the rifle from the bedroom window, nothing could be any clearer. Where had 'that' rifle been prior to it suddenly appearing at the parents bedroom window at around 7.15am, and how did it get onto Sheila's body afterwards?

Oh, I see, your 'claiming that Jeremy put the rifle there', on her body...

Not from where 'I am sitting', he didn't...

[mike tesko]

Can I believe that a cop can lie?

'Yes'...

Do I believe that cops shot Sheila Downstairs in the kitchen, and that 'hers' was the female body mentioned in the police radio message timed log entries at '7.37am', and '7.38am'?

'Yes'...

Do I believe that the cop operation went 'pearshaped' at 8.15am, when Harris, Gibbons, and Montgomery, entered the kitchen after the 'all clear' shout had been passed by firearm officers inside the premises at 8.10am?

'Yes'...

[Caroline]

Yes, 'he is'...

Cops staged his sisters body in the bedroom with the rifle from the bedroom window, nothing could be any clearer. Where had 'that' rifle been prior to it suddenly appearing at the parents bedroom window at around 7.15am, and how did it get onto Sheila's body afterwards?

Oh, I see, your 'claiming that Jeremy put the rifle there', on her body...

Not from where 'I am sitting', he didn't...

That's very true Mike, he cartainly didn't put the rifle on Sheila's body from where you're sitting 

[mike tesko]

The way I see it, is that Sheila was involved in the plot to kill the other four members of her family (she must have had an accomplice. Identifying 'that' accomplice has been one of my 'bug bears' for the past 17 years)...

Did I ever think that J might have been her accomplice?

'Yes'...

Do I think 'that' now?

'No'...

Why, not?

 Because, 'he wasn't the scruffy looking, hunched man' seen walking away from the farmhouse an hour after police first arrived there. He was with police at all times after his arrival there, at lets say 3.52am...

[mike tesko]

Over the years I have asked myself very searching questions, such as, 'Could J have been the killer, who almost got away with committing the perfect murders'?

'No'...

Why not?

Because, he is not half as clever as almost everyone is trying to make him out to be, or who he thinks he is. He just 'uses' people. He reminds me of a 'druggie'...

[mike tesko]

Over the years I have asked myself very searching questions, such as, 'Could J have been the killer, who almost got away with committing the perfect murders'?

'No'...

Why not?

Because, he is not half as clever as almost everyone is trying to make him out to be, or who he thinks he is. He just 'uses' people. He reminds me of a 'druggie'...

He displays all the 'characteristics' of being addicted to drugs...

[mike tesko]

He displays all the 'characteristics' of being addicted to drugs...

I have seen this 'condition' in many many people...

[mike tesko]

I don't honestly think, that someone in his 'condition' has got the bottle to carry out a crime of this nature. Basically, he is a coward, who can't see beyond the end of his own nose, and he can be very selfish at times, and 'forgetful'...

[John]

Your confusing yourself deliberately, and then expecting me to get you out of the mess you have got yourself into...

Ralph Neville was Sheila's accomplice. He was the scruffy looking hunched man seen walking away from the farm about an hour after cops first arrived there. He didn't kill S, cops shot her and she died from one of those shots...

Bunkum 

[John]

The corrupt practiceswhich eventually became exposed out of the 'Hillsboro' conspiracy involving corrupt South Yorkshire police, corrupt south Yorkshire CPS,corrupt South Yorkshire Coroner, and his officers, corrupt Prime Minister, corrupt Home Secretary, did not just happen for the one and only time on the 15th April, 1989, such despicable practices had been in evidence ever since the miners strike at Orgreave, in 1985, at 'Monkspring', Barnsley, in January, 1986; at 'Grenoside woods, Sheffield, in August 1986; at 'Ringstone grove, Brierley, Barnsley in January, 1987, and at 'Pealkey Hill', Derbyshire, in July, 1991...

None of which renders Jeremy Bamber innocent though.  Still awaiting this evidence.

[John]

Yes, and that is what cops did to Sheila, it was the cops who introduced the suicide claim, once downstairs in the kitchen, and secondly upstairs in the bedroom. The cops staged her body in the bedroom. There can be no doubt whatsoever about that...

Wrong!  It was Jeremy Bamber who set the scene, the silly cops just fell for it initially.   

[John]

Have you or any of your fellow supporters from the other camp, ever wondered why, not one solitary firearm officer has looked at PC Birds photographs that he took after 10 O'clock, and said, 'yes, that is how we found Sheila's body'...

They don't need to as they did nothing wrong.

[John]

Yes, 'he is'...

Cops staged his sisters body in the bedroom with the rifle from the bedroom window, nothing could be any clearer. Where had 'that' rifle been prior to it suddenly appearing at the parents bedroom window at around 7.15am, and how did it get onto Sheila's body afterwards?

Oh, I see, your 'claiming that Jeremy put the rifle there', on her body...

Not from where 'I am sitting', he didn't...

Nothing was staged by anyone except the killer Jeremy Bamber.