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Offline Caroline

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #645 on: May 08, 2016, 11:49:PM »
Rubbish, the first call was made by Jeremy at 3.26am

The ONLY call.
Few people have the imagination for reality

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #646 on: May 08, 2016, 11:49:PM »
There is nothing that you or any of your followers, or supporters can say, that I don't have an answer for, yet you 'ignore' the 'facts' because you can't give a satisfactory answer...

Your losing it...

So where is the photo of Sheila on the bed?

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #647 on: May 08, 2016, 11:50:PM »
The problem you and those like you have got, is that 'cops found two bodies in the kitchen upon entry, one dead male (dad), and one dead female (Sheila), a murder (dad) and a suicide (Sheila) before 7.45am. In addition, by 8.10am, 'a further three bodies found upstairs, five dead in total'...

Cops found the bodies of the victims distributed as mentioned, according to their own police radio message log contents. The timed entries were hand written. Do cops have a habit of falsifying police records?

I don't have a problem.  There was only one body in the kitchen and Jeremy Bamber was found guilty of murdering his entire family.  That's good enough for me!

You're the one with the problem... a big one at that!
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Offline mike tesko

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #648 on: May 08, 2016, 11:51:PM »
So where did this mysterious second body in the kitchen disappear to in your opinion?

If you can read, I suggest you read 'An Innocent Man'. ..

When you have done that, come back and lets thrash the truth out...

Your forum, versus, ours...

We could call it, the 'cup final of the forums', I volunteer to be the outsider...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #649 on: May 08, 2016, 11:53:PM »
Nothing gives me a greater pleasure, than being able to expose cop corruption...

Is that because they got the better of you in your pretendy burglary case?
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #650 on: May 08, 2016, 11:54:PM »
There is nothing that you or any of your followers, or supporters can say, that I don't have an answer for, yet you 'ignore' the 'facts' because you can't give a satisfactory answer...

Your losing it...

Having an answer doesn't make you right. I don't think your answer that West regarded Jeremy as an 'informant' is satisfactory at all - in fact it's simply dismissive. We call all be dismissive - but that's a cop out (pardon the pun).
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #651 on: May 08, 2016, 11:55:PM »
Confused police radio despatches is evidence of confused police radio despatches, nothing more and nothing less.

Let the cops who passed that information, 'speak for themselves in court', please. Now, I must insist...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #652 on: May 08, 2016, 11:55:PM »
If you can read, I suggest you read 'An Innocent Man'. ..

When you have done that, come back and lets thrash the truth out...

Your forum, versus, ours...

We could call it, the 'cup final of the forums', I volunteer to be the outsider...

I don't do fiction.  I thought you had all the answers, its a simple question.

Where did the second imaginary body disappear to?  You know, the one which everyone thought was dead but was magically able to walk upstairs and get shot again.  :)

I can't wait to hear your explanation.
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #653 on: May 09, 2016, 12:00:AM »
Let the cops who passed that information, 'speak for themselves in court', please. Now, I must insist...

No need, it's all very clear to most people what occurred.  The CCRC certainly never found anything wrong with the police account.

Offline mike tesko

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #654 on: May 09, 2016, 12:02:AM »
Is that because they got the better of you in your pretendy burglary case?

They haven't got the better of me, I am not a broken man because of the corruption they employed to get me convicted. I am stronger than ever, still here doing what I do best...

Now that 'Hillsboro' is out in the open, we have the current CC of South Yorkshire police going public stating that because of the findings of the Hillsboro' inquest, that miners who were prosecuted during the miners strike (1985) at 'Orgreave Colliery' should also be compensated. So, we have now got 'Orgreave' in 1985, and 'Hillsboro' in 1989...

What about all the other 'atrocities and miscarriages of justice which occurred in
between these two events?

Oh, Look...

There's my prosecutions between 1986 and 1987, same tactics, same altering of witness statements, and the obtaining of extra notebooks so that cops could 're-write' their notes, tut, tut, tut...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #655 on: May 09, 2016, 12:05:AM »
They haven't got the better of me, I am not a broken man because of the corruption they employed to get me convicted. I am stronger than ever, still here doing what I do best...

Now that 'Hillsboro' is out in the open, we have the current CC of South Yorkshire police going public stating that because of the findings of the Hillsboro' inquest, that miners who were prosecuted during the miners strike (1985) at 'Orgreave Colliery' should also be compensated. So, we have now got 'Orgreave' in 1985, and 'Hillsboro' in 1989...

What about all the other 'atrocities and miscarriages of justice which occurred in
between these two events?

Oh, Look...

There's my prosecutions between 1986 and 1987, same tactics, same altering of witness statements, and the obtaining of extra notebooks so that cops could 're-write' their notes, tut, tut, tut...

So you werent out on the rob and it was just one huge mistake frame up.  Tell me, why were you hiding in an attic when the police came to call?  Most people would call that seriously bizarre behaviour?
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Offline mike tesko

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #656 on: May 09, 2016, 12:07:AM »
Having an answer doesn't make you right. I don't think your answer that West regarded Jeremy as an 'informant' is satisfactory at all - in fact it's simply dismissive. We call all be dismissive - but that's a cop out (pardon the pun).

I beg your pardon...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

John

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #657 on: May 09, 2016, 12:26:AM »
No doubt Mike will come back with an answer to my question in the fullness of time.

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #658 on: May 09, 2016, 12:29:AM »
So you werent out on the rob and it was just one huge mistake.  Tell me, why were you hiding in an attic when the police came to call?  Most people would call that bizarre behaviour?

That just really demonstrates how knowledgeable you really are...

Two pages 5 and 6, retyped by a totally different typewriter, and inserted into the middle of a statement which started off as a 9 page statement, which had its original page 5 'removed', had the original page 6's page number, tippexed out and altered to 7, the original page 7 had its page number tippexed out and altered to 8, the original page 8 had its page number tippexed out, and altered to 9, and the original page 9, having its page number tippexed out, and altered into 10...

The cop didn't even make his own witness statement, it was made 'for him' by another dodgy cop, who falsly claimed that he had a right to make the other cops statement for him, because they made their notes up together before they both went off duty in the early hours of 26th Januaury, 1987. But, hey, guess what, the cop who made the other cops witness statement on the premis that they had got the same notes recorded in each others notebooks which they made up together at the end of the shift, did not get his notebook issued to him until 31st January, 1987 by a Detective Inspector (Clough), so 'hey presto', cop lied on oath to the jury. Do you know what that means bozo? It means that not only did the cop not make his own statement, but the cop who made his statement for him in his absence, told 'a lie' to the court, to the judge, to the prosecution, to the defence, and to the jury, about the reason why he said he was entitled to make up another officers witness statement in his absence. He hadn't been issued with his notebook until the 31st January, 1987, so he could hardly have made those notes in it with the other officer before they had gone off duty that night...

Do things sound familiar, bozo?

South Yorkshire Police, 1987/ 1988, falls bang in the middle between the miners strike (Orgreave), 1985, and of course, 'Hillsboro', 1989...

I was on the picket line at Orgreave, bozo...

You can smirk all you like about my demise, bozo, but at least I am not a lying, evil, despicable, low life bent copper, and I will have my day of justice, sooner or later. It's just a matter of time, before cops from this region are made to answer for everything wrong that they have done to me, and others like me in their reign of terror and corruption. Bent cops in this region in this era made the law up as they went along...

I'll get my day of 'justice', sooner, or later, do you know why, bozo? Because I am still a very strong minded person. Bent cops haven't broken my spirit, neither has the fact that I served the sentences they threw at me like confetti. But I am still here, still complaining, still fighting, and that will be the case until I die...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #659 on: May 09, 2016, 12:29:AM »
I beg your pardon...

So it most certainly wasn't Nevill then.