What makes Bamber innocent?

[John]

Well, its the truth, Sheila 'did not' shoot herself downstairs in the kitchen. But if he wants to pursue that further let him, because it won't get himn anywhere. The anshuzt rifle was at the bedroom window from 7.15am, and still there when cops entered the kitchen. So, how did she manage to shoot herself with 'that' gun?

SHE DIDN'T!  Jeremy Bamber shot her TWICE!

[John]

I once reported a break in, the cop told me it had already been reported. Telling someone that the incident is being 'dealt with' isn't giving any thng away - however, I maintain that West would have told Jeremy his father had JUST called and there was no reason to knowingly frame an innocent man.

Certainly he would have done had Nevill actually phoned the police but we know he didn't.

[Caroline]

Certainly he would have done had Nevill actually phoned the police but we know he didn't.

We certainly do.

[mike tesko]

Hardly surprising given that at that stage he'd had no other contact with Jeremy. "Informant" is simply  generic.

That's right, PC West had had no contact with J before 3.36am...

[mike tesko]

Where are the real logs?

Why would cops, re-write the logs?

[mike tesko]

Never never land?

Well, even the content of J's phone log (3.36am) were not accurately recorded according to the cross examination of PC West by Rivlin, QC, as opposed to what J talked about as per PC Wests witness statement. Why would there exist such differences, inconsistences, and contradictory information in both?

[Jane]

That's right, PC West had had no contact with J before 3.36am...

THAT wasn't the point I was making. Whatever "time" you insist on, Jeremy's status, as the only informant was "the informant".

[mike tesko]

You're so transparent.

Yes, but at least I'm not bent and corrupt like dishonest coppers...

[Jane]

Yes, but at least I'm not bent and corrupt like dishonest coppers...

I think it must be accepted that if all those charged AREN'T guilty of those thing they're charged with, it must also be accepted that not ALL police are what you accuse them of being.

[mike tesko]

They all make it up as they go along Caroline but not a single scrap of any proof that Bamber could be innocent.  Just myths and innuendos.

There is 'loads of evidence' not yet heard at trial, or during an appeal. You must be deluded and frightened that if all this fresh evidence ever got raised in a court of law, that judges of appeal would be hard pushed to ignore the significance of it all. The cops that were involved in successfully prosecuting and convicting J of these murders are vile evil bastards. How could they concoct all these lies to try and convict an innocent man of such an awful crime? Despicable cops, nothing more, nothing less...

[Jane]

There is 'loads of evidence' not yet heard at trial, or during an appeal. You must be deluded and frightened that if all this fresh evidence ever got raised in a court of law, that judges of appeal would be hard pushed to ignore the significance of it all. The cops that were involved in successfully prosecuting and convicting J of these murders are vile evil bastards. How could they concoct all these lies to try and convict an innocent man of such an awful crime? Despicable cops, nothing more, nothing less...

So it's an "As you were" situation, isn't it? That which doesn't exist can't ever be produced so Jeremy's supporters have the luxury of saying, for the foreseeable future, that it's deliberately being withheld and you can continue to call the police rude names.

[mike tesko]

OMG...I actually agree with you on that one.  Nice to see you are beginning to see the light.

I'm not agreeing with you, I am just stating a fact. The anshuzt rifle remained at the bedroom window from 7.15am, onward, otherwise cops would have reported its movement. Because they didn't, means it remained at the window, and would have been at the window when cops downstairs in the kitchen reported 'two bodies' present in the kitchen, a male, and a female. Note that a male body was reported before the report of a female body? This was 'after' cops had entered the kitchen, so this puts PC Collins nonsense to bed, once and for ever...

[mike tesko]

Don't be a silly Billy or should that be Mikey.  The police use that tactic all the time to extract information.

J was regarded as an informant according to the contents of Wests 3.36am log, but 'not' dad...

I wonder why?

[John]

That's right, PC West had had no contact with J before 3.36am...

Rubbish, the first call was made by Jeremy at 3.26am

[John]

Yes, but at least I'm not bent and corrupt like dishonest coppers...

Just an honest burglar.