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Offline Caroline

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #525 on: May 07, 2016, 06:17:PM »




One robbery doesn't constitute a mass murder carried out by the same man. Arson now too ??
If JB hadn't robbed the office ( then admitted it was him ) what pedigree would he have had leading up to the murders ?

He didn't admit it was him, Julie admitted it so he couldn't deny it!
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #526 on: May 07, 2016, 06:22:PM »




One robbery doesn't constitute a mass murder carried out by the same man. Arson now too ??
If JB hadn't robbed the office ( then admitted it was him ) what pedigree would he have had leading up to the murders ?

He didn't admit it though until Julie squealed on him.

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #527 on: May 07, 2016, 06:32:PM »
Customary? I don't think so Lookout. He first 'rattled' off his story on the morning of the murders. Are you suggesting he should have asked for a solicitor to be present when he spoke to police? If so, he might as well have put the handcuffs on himself!!






Ask John how many arrests don't answer,or answer no comment. You'd be a fool to talk. 

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #528 on: May 07, 2016, 06:35:PM »
He didn't admit it though until Julie squealed on him.






It was in JM's interest to open up about the robbery,or she wouldn't have cracked on either. Soft lad had already told his father previously.

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #529 on: May 07, 2016, 06:42:PM »
Only one call received by police despite the myths.  Jeremy didn't know that the time of his call from the farm to his own house wouldn't be recorded by BT.  He had to leave the handset off to make it appear that Nevill made the call and was interrupted and also to ensure that the phone rang long enough so that he could nip home and answer it.  Since the phone was then disabled Jerry had to wait for a while before phoning Julie.  Not a very imaginative plan.





The myth lies in the fact that the jury were told that there was only one phone-call when there were two.
The " nipping home " bit creases me. Speeding over rough terrain on a sit-up and beg ladies bicycle. Never !

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #530 on: May 07, 2016, 06:46:PM »





Ask John how many arrests don't answer,or answer no comment. You'd be a fool to talk.

Its generally the guilty or those with prior convictions who refuse to answer.

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #531 on: May 07, 2016, 06:48:PM »




The myth lies in the fact that the jury were told that there was only one phone-call when there were two.
The " nipping home " bit creases me. Speeding over rough terrain on a sit-up and beg ladies bicycle. Never !

Why do you persist with that nonsense lookout, had there been two calls made to police they would have been recorded as such and spoken to by witnesses at the trial.

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #532 on: May 07, 2016, 06:51:PM »
Its generally the guilty or those with prior convictions who refuse to answer.





So in actual fact when JB was first arrested,he was telling the truth. Second arrest he'd been advised to engage a solicitor. If I'm not wrong,JB had refused the services of a solicitor when first arrested---------until the penny dropped that his words could/WOULD get misconstrued ( putting it politely ) and were.

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #533 on: May 07, 2016, 06:58:PM »
Why do you persist with that nonsense lookout, had there been two calls made to police they would have been recorded as such and spoken to by witnesses at the trial.






Because there was a general cock-up of everything else,to admit to there being two phone-calls would have been the end of the trial and a few jobs to boot.
Two Mr Bambers,separate addresses ( or was it, in the minds of officers ?) which is how it would have appeared to those not expecting a call-out for a murder or an attempted one/s.

My " nonsense " is every bit as nutty as yours.
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #534 on: May 07, 2016, 06:59:PM »





It was in JM's interest to open up about the robbery,or she wouldn't have cracked on either. Soft lad had already told his father previously.

And you know this because?
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #535 on: May 07, 2016, 07:01:PM »





Ask John how many arrests don't answer,or answer no comment. You'd be a fool to talk.

Perhaps John could confirm if answering no comment is 'customary'?
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #536 on: May 07, 2016, 07:01:PM »
I'm not sure Jeremy told his parents as such-probably more of a nudge nudge wink wink. Didn't Nevill tell the Eatons that they weren't looking for anyone in connection with the robbery..

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #537 on: May 07, 2016, 07:02:PM »
And you know this because?




I read books,don't you ? Oh,you don't have Lomax's do you ?

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #538 on: May 07, 2016, 07:05:PM »





Because there was a general cock-up of everything else,to admit to there being two phone-calls would have been the end of the trial and a few jobs to boot.
Two Mr Bambers,separate addresses ( or was it, in the minds of officers ?) which is how it would have appeared to those not expecting a call-out for a murder or an attempted one/s.

My " nonsense " is every bit as nutty as yours.

So you don't think West would bother to ask for the address of the caller and the address of the possible victim? Perhaps you can answer WHY West wouldn't have told Jeremy that his father had already called not 10 minutes previously?
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #539 on: May 07, 2016, 07:16:PM »
So you don't think West would bother to ask for the address of the caller and the address of the possible victim? Perhaps you can answer WHY West wouldn't have told Jeremy that his father had already called not 10 minutes previously?





Because the idiot was getting confused with there being two Mr Bambers so it was easier to just mention one. Perhaps you haven't realised that JB wasn't the only one with no gumption.