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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #390 on: May 04, 2016, 11:53:AM »
Any cop worth his weight in dodgy pocketbook entries should have known that if cops found Sheila's body like this that she could not have killed herself and the body end up like this 'two and a half hours' after cops allegedly found her body...

If the flow of blood looked like this, two and a half hours after cops originally found her body, shot in the neck, then why is it that this flow of blood has not yet fully coagulated? It only takes blood 15 minutes to coagulate, yet here is an image taken two and a half hours after cops entered the farmhouse, and 'it has not' coagulated fully. This is odd considering that the victim is laid on her back with the wounds high up in that position of her body in the photograph. Cops shot Sheila. Cops staged her body. There is no other party responsible for killing her. She did not kill herself, and her brother Jeremy could not possibly have done what cops have done, and did...

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #391 on: May 04, 2016, 11:55:AM »
That is a good point...

The blood shown on her neck in this image cannot have looked like this when cops found her body. The blood in this image cannot have been like this when the police surgeon, Dr Craig pronounced her as being dead at 8.44am, in the presence of 'Bob' Miller. The blood shown in this image cannot have looked like this when PS Adams viewed her body minus the gun at 9 O'clock, or when DS 'Stan' Jones saw Sheila's body on the bed sporting a single bullet wound after 9.05am ( he told Annie Eaton this when he saw her later that morning). The blood on her neck in this image was not present in the images cops took of Sheila's body 'on the bed' because she hadn't been shot under the chin by that stage. Since the time that DCI 'Taff' Jones and DS 'Stan' Jones did not arrive at the scene until around 9.05am, and the time the second shot got inflicted at 9.13am, the timing at which the images of Sheila's body on the bed can now be identified at being taken moments either side of, and inclusive of 9.10am. The fact that 'Stan' Jones has gone on record as describing what Sheila looked like when he had seen her body, as though she was 'just sleeping, so peacefully', does not befit the image shown in this photograph (shown). However, if you could imagine all the flowing blood from the upper wound and the corner of her mouth, nostril and pooled into her left eye socket, it paints the picture 'Stan' Jones was talking about. In the images of Sheila on the bed you can barely see any blood flow from the only bullet wound on her throat. There is no blood running from the corners of her mouth, or nostril. There is no blood pooled in her left eye socket. There is no triangular bloodstain on the upper right hand side of her nightdress. Above waistline Sheila 'does look like she is just sleeping', and the reason for that is because at 'that' stage, she was 'still barely' alive, not yet the recipient of the shot beneath the chin...

Are you so naive as to think that blood cannot flow from a dead body more than 24 hours after death and even if the body doesn't have wounds?    You really haven't got a baldy have you?

Your claim of a picture of Sheila on the bed with ONE BULLET HOLE in her neck is a load of BULL!   This point alone renders your credibility in this case as highly suspect.

No wonder Bamber told you to get on your bike  :)
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #392 on: May 04, 2016, 04:35:PM »
Dad left phone off the hook after he made the 3.26am call, followed by him activating the panic button.
Leaving the telephone receiver off-hook would have made the telephone line unavailable for use when any panic button was pressed. There is no evidence that WHF had a second line connected so that a panic button could dial out using that line instead. You've not explained how you know the time of 03:29, which you've been mentioning only relatively recently.

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #393 on: May 04, 2016, 05:16:PM »
Leaving the telephone receiver off-hook would have made the telephone line unavailable for use when any panic button was pressed. There is no evidence that WHF had a second line connected so that a panic button could dial out using that line instead. You've not explained how you know the time of 03:29, which you've been mentioning only relatively recently.

All telephone lines were shared unless you had a 'private telephone directory account', or similar. As I understand it, the line at the farmhouse was shared between private and business calls, for accounting purposes. BT had a way of billing for the business calls made to the business run from inside the farmhouse, known as, ' N & J Bamber, Ltd'. The phone located in the 'upstairs office' was for business use, and purposes only. The kitchen phone and the main bedroom phones were for private calls. That is the information I have been given...

It is not as certain as everyone thinks, that dads call to J (3.25am), and dads call to cops (3.26am), was using the same 'party line' to which the 'SB panic alarm' was linked to. The information I received was that the alarm was activated at 3.29am, and that it did not effect the open line left open by dad calling cops on the private side of the party line. Dad used the kitchen phone to make both the brief message call to J followed by the call to cops. The panic alarm was 'activated' three minutes after dad was speaking to cops. The panic buttons in use at the farmhouse operated via the party line fed into the upstairs office. A control box was plugged in inside Ralph's upstairs office, which could receive the signal from either of the two portable hand held transponders issued to the parents, no matter where they were inside the farmhouse or within a radius of 50 metres or more in the farmyard. I had personal knowledge of this type of transponder when I was a target criminal being hounded by the No.3 Regional Crime Squad. They put tracking devices on vehicles I was believed to be using, bugged cars, houses I visited, and my home, did phone taps. I suppose I was a guini pig for the No.3 RCS to practice the new technology they had developed or been given access to during the early to mid 1980's. All of this technology,  its deployment and usage all fell under pii, and the official secrets act. Although we found out about it, we could not mention anything about how it had been unlawfully deployed or used against us. Cops couldn't use the evidence obtained from these devices, except for intelligence gathering purposes. I have it on good authority that transponder type panic alarms were installed at the farmhouse. Cops are forbidden to admit to them being installed because they were linked to a protection program involving Ralph Bamber and his wife, June, and it is not possible to get anything in writing regarding the use of this equipment at that time, because of something called, 'The Proviso', which is something the High Court will refer all enquiries to, which basically means the authorities do not have to give any explanation for why this type of equipment was used, other than the say the it maybe because it involves issues of National Security, the detection of crime, interfering with witnesses, you name it, they have an answer for everything. However, it still does not stop people from 'knowing', what the authorities do not want to have to admit to doing, or having done...



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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #394 on: May 04, 2016, 05:29:PM »
Are you so naive as to think that blood cannot flow from a dead body more than 24 hours after death and even if the body doesn't have wounds?    You really haven't got a baldy have you?

Your claim of a picture of Sheila on the bed with ONE BULLET HOLE in her neck is a load of BULL!   This point alone renders your credibility in this case as highly suspect.

No wonder Bamber told you to get on your bike  :)

You are a baffoon, with a peanut for a brain. Look at the position of the two bullet holes in Sheila's neck. Where are they located upon her neck? Underneath her neck at the lowest point, no. On either side of her neck let's say half way up or down, no. At the highest part of her neck from the floor, yes. How much blood do you day Sheila had inside her body? How long was the inside of her neck always going to be full up to such an extent that seven hours later, her blood is still running out of the wounds at the top of her neck (furthest away from the ground beneath her neck). It stands to reason that sooner or later, she would run out of blood, and sooner or later, because she is dead, there will be a lack of oxygen in the blood because when she died her heart stopped beating. I do not believe that someone with two such injuries located on the upper most part of a persons neck from the floor beneath it, would be able to bleed like that continuously for over seven hours. Impossible because the victim would run out of blood before they ran out of time. 8 pints of blood, still running out of wounds on the highest part of the body in the neck - sorry, your having a laugh...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #395 on: May 04, 2016, 05:34:PM »
You are a baffoon, with a peanut for a brain. Look at the position of the two bullet holes in Sheila's neck. Where are they located upon her neck? Underneath her neck at the lowest point, no. On either side of her neck let's say half way up or down, no. At the highest part of her neck from the floor, yes. How much blood do you day Sheila had inside her body? How long was the inside of her neck always going to be full up to such an extent that seven hours later, her blood is still running out of the wounds at the top of her neck (furthest away from the ground beneath her neck). It stands to reason that sooner or later, she would run out of blood, and sooner or later, because she is dead, there will be a lack of oxygen in the blood because when she died her heart stopped beating. I do not believe that someone with two such injuries located on the upper most part of a persons neck from the floor beneath it, would be able to bleed like that continuously for over seven hours. Impossible because the victim would run out of blood before they ran out of time. 8 pints of blood, still running out of wounds on the highest part of the body in the neck - sorry, your having a laugh...

You are the baffoon, as to a brain...hmm...questionable.  :)

 A body can bleed for well over a day so your claim is nonsense, simplistic, amateurish bullshit!

Back to the drawingboard and more made up silliness eh?
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #396 on: May 04, 2016, 05:42:PM »
All telephone lines were shared unless you had a 'private telephone directory account', or similar. As I understand it, the line at the farmhouse was shared between private and business calls, for accounting purposes. BT had a way of billing for the business calls made to the business run from inside the farmhouse, known as, ' N & J Bamber, Ltd'. The phone located in the 'upstairs office' was for business use, and purposes only. The kitchen phone and the main bedroom phones were for private calls. That is the information I have been given...


You can't seperate one line into two accounts.  White House Farm only had one telephone number associated with it consequently one line and one account.  Regardless, there never was an alarm of any sort in the house until AFTER the murders so your informant is talking out of his ass...but then what's new with your claims?
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #397 on: May 04, 2016, 06:37:PM »
You are the baffoon, as to a brain...hmm...questionable.  :)

 A body can bleed for well over a day so your claim is nonsense, simplistic, amateurish bullshit!

Back to the drawingboard and more made up silliness eh?

It cannot bleed for a day from the upper most part of the body from the floor. You really are 'idiotic'. Stop, for a moment and think about what your saying. It's bonkers like your forum. What I will say in response to your nonsense is that I am 100% certain that any expert will back me up on this point. Now, if the wounds had been at the back of her neck, closest to the ground, that would be another matter. Your a complete fool for saying what your saying. How come, less than 10 minutes after 'that' image was taken, all the blood had 'coagulated, and turned 'dark looking'? Are you saying that its just a coincidence that she bled like that for over seven hours, and that 10 minutes after 'that' photograph was taken, that the blood suddenly decided to coagulate, all by itself, and the fact it did is just a remarkable coincidence? You forget - what about the female body downstairs, as per the police message log contents? A female which cannot have been dead, unless cops carried her body upstairs after they shot her, and plonked her body on the bed. A female, who supposedly committed suicide before 7.45am. Are you saying that cops made all this up for no particular reason? The problem the cops and brain dead people like you have got, is that by 8.10am, the body count downstairs and upstairs was two down, three up. Cops state that, not me. By the time PC Bird starts to take photographs at ten, the body count downstairs has changed to one, and changed to four upstairs. That is the problem the cops and people like you have got to come up with a legitimate explanation for. You are stuck in the myre of a fabricated account that cops only have themselves to blame for, and you are basically as thick as pig shit for believing the witness accounts, rather than the police message log accounts...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #398 on: May 04, 2016, 06:41:PM »
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You're posting a lot today Mike.

Did you get any feedback from Jeremy or lawyers about the police framing of Jeremy ?

I have received a communication, yes...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #399 on: May 04, 2016, 06:42:PM »
Back into la la land again!  :)

Where you belong...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #400 on: May 04, 2016, 06:46:PM »
You can't seperate one line into two accounts.  White House Farm only had one telephone number associated with it consequently one line and one account.  Regardless, there never was an alarm of any sort in the house until AFTER the murders so your informant is talking out of his ass...but then what's new with your claims?

See what it says in 'N & J Bamber , Ltd' tax returns, then, lard arse...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #401 on: May 04, 2016, 06:47:PM »
See what it says in 'N & J Bamber , Ltd' tax returns, then, lard arse...

Oh, I forgot you 'don't have them' do you?
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #402 on: May 04, 2016, 06:58:PM »
I have received a communication, yes...

What did the lawyers or Bamber say Mike ?

Are they also including you're picture of Sheila on the bed in the next CCRC application ?
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #403 on: May 04, 2016, 07:24:PM »
What did the lawyers or Bamber say Mike ?

Are they also including you're picture of Sheila on the bed in the next CCRC application ?

deffo la la land.  :)

...and as for communications from Bamber or his lawyers, Tesko stopped getting them a long time ago.
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« Reply #404 on: May 04, 2016, 07:27:PM »
See what it says in 'N & J Bamber , Ltd' tax returns, then, lard arse...

As usual for farmers there will be a split between private use and business use which will be an estimate only.
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