What makes Bamber innocent?

[David1819]

I have looked at all the evidence and see nothing which could ever change my mind.  I look forward to reviewing your recent claimed breakthrough however.

You can't have, the evidence in the public domain is just the tip of the iceberg.

[John]

You can't have, the evidence in the public domain is just the tip of the iceberg.

I don't think so.  We have most of the facts at our disposal.  There isn't a single piece of exculpatory evidence in existence, says it all really doesn't it David?

[lookout]

C'mon John,we've seen/read about more than enough of the " top-brass " in the force,thinking they're protected by their positions,who have reneged in some way. They always make sure they're seen rubbing shoulders with some MP or another. Then the rest of their crew ( poodles ) have to follow suit. None of them are infallible,or indispensible, come to that.

[mike tesko]

The most obvious pieces of information or evidence which guarantees his total innocence, is the fact that:-

(a) Cops, experts, and relatives had to frame him, because they 'thought' he might have had something to do with it, so they improvised the evidence, acting with a touch of 'noble cause corruption' in mind'...
h as an explanation as to how the line had become engaged whilst the operator had control of the line?

Thinking, or believing somebody did something is 'not evidence'...

[mike tesko]

Thinking, or believing somebody did something is 'not evidence'...

Relatives and cops took it upon themselves (jointly, eventually) to take matters into their own hands by introducing the 'dodgy silencer' evidence, to which the 'nitwits' associated everything else to 'it', like the blood, the paint, and the claim that it was fitted to the barrel of the rifle which fired the fatal shot beneath Sheila's chin, that 'whoever' the killer was, had removed 'it' and taken it all the way downstairs to hide it in a box in the cupboard in the den. I mean, come on, 'how can the S have been on the barrel of the G when Sheila got shot with it before her body reached the bedroom, because we all know the G was resting against the side of the bedroom window, and that it had been there from as long ago as 7.15am? You don't get it, do ya? With the gun at the window before Sheila got shot downstairs, how could cops regard her as dead in the kitchen, if shot by that same G? Impossible. Cops called it 'two bodies' downstairs in the kitchen upon entry. The male body was called first, followed by the calling of the second body, a female. There is no room in this event for any dodgty cop to try and introduce a 'mix up', where he supposedly mistook the dead male body for the body of a female from his vantage point outside the kitchen window, which he rectified once he got into the kitchen. By that I mean, once the cops got into the kitchen they were clearly dealing with 'two bodies, not one'. If PC Collins made 'that' mistake, it only has a bearing on one of the two bodies reported to have been found upon entry to the kitchen. Collins account could be right in relation to one of those two bodies, but not both. So, PC Collins account can be put to bed once and for all. This is because once the first body was identified as a dead male, in particular, dads body, then I fail to see how cops inside the same kitchen can then proceed to report the discovery of another body. A female body, not a male body. Heaven forbid if some other cop is going to crawl out of the woodword and make a counter claim that after dads body had been found and reported as found, that cops changed their minds and described his body as a dead female. Nothing would surprise me, cops cannot be trusted. Many of them are far worse criminals than the ones that they profess to arrest and prosecute.

[mike tesko]

Relatives and cops took it upon themselves (jointly, eventually) to take matters into their own hands by introducing the 'dodgy silencer' evidence, to which the 'nitwits' associated everything else to 'it', like the blood, the paint, and the claim that it was fitted to the barrel of the rifle which fired the fatal shot beneath Sheila's chin, that 'whoever' the killer was, had removed 'it' and taken it all the way downstairs to hide it in a box in the cupboard in the den. I mean, come on, 'how can the S have been on the barrel of the G when Sheila got shot with it before her body reached the bedroom, because we all know the G was resting against the side of the bedroom window, and that it had been there from as long ago as 7.15am? You don't get it, do ya? With the gun at the window before Sheila got shot downstairs, how could cops regard her as dead in the kitchen, if shot by that same G? Impossible. Cops called it 'two bodies' downstairs in the kitchen upon entry. The male body was called first, followed by the calling of the second body, a female. There is no room in this event for any dodgty cop to try and introduce a 'mix up', where he supposedly mistook the dead male body for the body of a female from his vantage point outside the kitchen window, which he rectified once he got into the kitchen. By that I mean, once the cops got into the kitchen they were clearly dealing with 'two bodies, not one'. If PC Collins made 'that' mistake, it only has a bearing on one of the two bodies reported to have been found upon entry to the kitchen. Collins account could be right in relation to one of those two bodies, but not both. So, PC Collins account can be put to bed once and for all. This is because once the first body was identified as a dead male, in particular, dads body, then I fail to see how cops inside the same kitchen can then proceed to report the discovery of another body. A female body, not a male body. Heaven forbid if some other cop is going to crawl out of the woodword and make a counter claim that after dads body had been found and reported as found, that cops changed their minds and described his body as a dead female. Nothing would surprise me, cops cannot be trusted. Many of them are far worse criminals than the ones that they profess to arrest and prosecute.

It gets worse, because before 7.45am, a civilian employee in the communications room (Linda) has received information that one of these 'two bodies' was a murder, and the other body, the second one, was in fact reported to her as 'a suicide'. So, if there was only one body downstairs in the kitchen, this is the unlikeliest scenario ever, that cops and those that condemn J as the killer, expect ordinary folk to believe. There was only ever one body in the kitchen, it was a female body, then it was a male body, then it was a female body, which was being described and referred to by cops, as a murder, then a suicide...

Numpties...

How can anybody have described dads death as a suicide by 7.45am?

Worse still, how did he commit suicide downstairs in the kitchen, if the G was still resting at the bedroom window by that stage of his murder, or his suicide?

[mike tesko]

Cops have 'blown it'...

[mike tesko]

What the Hillsboro cops did in the Hillsboro' cover up were tactics that dodgy police forces all over the country adopted when trying to pin the blame upon the innocent. Bambers case was no exception...

[mike tesko]

What cops at whf did, is they moved the timing of Sheila's death backwards, to before 3.36am from 9.13am, and cut out all the activity involving her, downstairs in the kitchen, and later after her arrival upstairs in the main bedroom on the bed, then they moved her body to the bedroom floor, rifle brought from window placed on her body during a training exercise for 'gauging' purposes, 'BANG', now, she was dead, and they killed her, the cops killed Sheila Caffell in the main bedroom, she did not kill herself, J did not kill her, how could he have?

[JackiePreece]

You can't have, the evidence in the public domain is just the tip of the iceberg.

I know you are right

[mike tesko]

One day the lot of you will 'wake up' to the truth regarding what took place inside that farmhouse after cops went in at around 7.30am. The truth is shocking. The truth involves having to accept that 'cops have lied'. The truth is that Sheila was still alive. She got shot downstairs in the kitchen, but which G fired the first shot? Certainly not the rifle which was leaning at the bedroom window, since that did not get moved from its position at the window at any stage between 7.15 and 9.12am, so if Sheila's body was the female body reportedly found downstairs in the kitchen after the body of dad had already been reported as being dead, can somebody tell me how Sheila had been shot to enable cops in the kitchen to call her as being dead? Where did the G come from which fired that first shot across her throat? The true explanation, is a simple one. A bullet from a cop gun wounded her downstairs in the kitchen. It cannot have been the rifle at the upstairs bedroom window. It was a gun which belonged to a cop, for sure. That is why there is mention of a 'police officers report', relating to the shooting incident downstairs upon entry. That report contains the detail which proves categorically that Sheila did not initially get shot upstairs. She was 'not' shot twice in quick succession upstairs in the main bedroom. That is a dirty cop lie. How can both shots have been fired one after the other, in quick succession, with use of the same gun, with the rifle that 'did' fire the fatal bullet beneath the chin at the bedroom window, unmoved, untouched, until around 9.12am, when it was brought to Sheila's body after her body had been moved to the bedroom floor from the bed, as part of a 'training exercise', that went 'tragically' wrong?

[mike tesko]

A cop lie...

Nothing more, nothing less...

[mike tesko]

Imagine the situation at the time that rifle which was resting against the bedroom window, in full view of cop marksmen and women, from 7.15am, onward?  The time is 9.13am, and Sheila has just been shot by a G that had no right to have been anywhere near her body at that stage. Worse still, she had also by that stage been shot earlier downstairs in the kitchen upon entry by a cop gun...

[mike tesko]

Imagine the situation at the time that rifle which was resting against the bedroom window, in full view of cop marksmen and women, from 7.15am, onward?  The time is 9.13am, and Sheila has just been shot by a G that had no right to have been anywhere near her body at that stage. Worse still, she had also by that stage been shot earlier downstairs in the kitchen upon entry by a cop gun...

What do cops do?

[mike tesko]

Do they 'fess up, and let it be made known publicly that the forces armed response units have dropped one almighty bollock, or do they try to keep a lid upon it, hoping that if they handle the matter discreetly, given time,  that the matter can be swept under the carpet?