What makes Bamber innocent?

[lookout]

Which has WHAT do do with a burglar alarm that wasn't there until after the massacre?

It has a lot to do with the subject.

[Jane]

It has a lot to do with the subject.

It seems that however many say there was NO alarm system of ANY kind prior to the massacre, you either THINK you know differently, OR you're NOT prepared to allow that you're wrong.

[lookout]

It seems that however many say there was NO alarm system of ANY kind prior to the massacre, you either THINK you know differently, OR you're NOT prepared to allow that you're wrong.

Wouldn't you like to know !!

[Jane]

Wouldn't you like to know !!

Let's put it this way, Lookout. From the amount of times you've misquoted and the amount of times you've "read something somewhere" which for the MOST part can't be located, I think the answer is probably NO......................but you might like to compare notes with Daisy to argue the toss about how much Jeremy has revealed to each of you.

[Steve_uk]

Getting back to the subject of this thread I don't see how any of these things makes him innocent..

[Jane]

Getting back to the subject of this thread I don't see how any of these things makes him innocent..

They absolutely don't, Steve...................however some desperately want to have us believe that an unproven phone call from Nevill to the police following the activating of a non existent panic alarm makes him so.

[lookout]

They absolutely don't, Steve...................however some desperately want to have us believe that an unproven phone call from Nevill to the police following the activating of a non existent panic alarm makes him so.

Now you're being silly,as it's not just that. The phone-call or non phone-call is just another stupid epithet of having been swayed by those others who just because they slung mud about the facts of JB's origins,decided to continue with the mud-slinging in every direction possible. All because his upbringing happens to have been different. That was just the start. It's called character assassination.

[Steve_uk]

Now you're being silly,as it's not just that. The phone-call or non phone-call is just another stupid epithet of having been swayed by those others who just because they slung mud about the facts of JB's origins,decided to continue with the mud-slinging in every direction possible. All because his upbringing happens to have been different. That was just the start. It's called character assassination.

I don't think anybody would argue that Jeremy was perceived as a "cuckoo" amongst the relatives and maybe this was the start of Jeremy's lack of concern about the Farm and what others thought about him. However I don't see how this affected the Police investigation, when it was those in the junior ranks who were most perturbed by Taff Jones' peremptory conclusions and not the top brass, who would have been content to take the easier course with Sheila taking the blame.

[Jane]

Now you're being silly,as it's not just that. The phone-call or non phone-call is just another stupid epithet of having been swayed by those others who just because they slung mud about the facts of JB's origins,decided to continue with the mud-slinging in every direction possible. All because his upbringing happens to have been different. That was just the start. It's called character assassination.

Lookout, I don't recall that I, or indeed ANY from the guilty side, have "slung mud about the ""facts"" of Jeremy's origins". Indeed, it's more those in the innocent camp who have tried to promote certain "facts". I'd hazard a guess that NONE of us accept that his blood may be a tad blue, but IF such was the case, it denotes neither guilt nor innocence, and it certainly DOESN'T mean that Special Branch have been keeping an eye on the family from the time of his adoption!!!!! I don't know what you mean about his upbringing being different. It was as close to mine as makes no difference and as a child I had no idea that others led different lives.

[lookout]

Lookout, I don't recall that I, or indeed ANY from the guilty side, have "slung mud about the ""facts"" of Jeremy's origins". Indeed, it's more those in the innocent camp who have tried to promote certain "facts". I'd hazard a guess that NONE of us accept that his blood may be a tad blue, but IF such was the case, it denotes neither guilt nor innocence, and it certainly DOESN'T mean that Special Branch have been keeping an eye on the family from the time of his adoption!!!!! I don't know what you mean about his upbringing being different. It was as close to mine as makes no difference and as a child I had no idea that others led different lives.

Champagne life-style and all that tosh ? So what ?

[lookout]

Private school and " branded " clothing ?

[Jane]

Champagne life-style and all that tosh ? So what ?

Well yes. There IS that............if only because no one has come forward to say that he was an enthusiastic member of anything that wasn't associated with it. Whilst that, in itself doesn't make him guilty, that life style had to be funded and would likely cost more than a yearly sub. to Young Farmers or young Conservatives.

[lookout]

There are ALWAYS those who are more than ready to disparage others of having everything,and it's those people who go one better when it comes to something like accusing an innocent man of murder. The hatred is deep-seated and takes over their everyday lives to such an extent that their mindset no longer believes otherwise. Even when JB is cleared of murder,these people will remain fixated in their world of guilt. 

[Jane]

There are ALWAYS those who are more than ready to disparage others of having everything,and it's those people who go one better when it comes to something like accusing an innocent man of murder. The hatred is deep-seated and takes over their everyday lives to such an extent that their mindset no longer believes otherwise. Even when JB is cleared of murder,these people will remain fixated in their world of guilt.

There is evidence of that mind set -inverted snobbery- on this forum, Lookout. I seem to recall foul and unsubstantiated accusations made against all those who are Masons. Such hatred does, indeed, appear to be so deep seated that it takes over their lives to such an extent that they become fixated on it as the truth. It matters not that Jeremy will never see freedom because they need to have that mind set to hang on to as proof that corruption, in certain quarters is alive, well and thriving..........................and I don't believe there is any comparison with that appalling football tragedy.

[lookout]

There is evidence of that mind set -inverted snobbery- on this forum, Lookout. I seem to recall foul and unsubstantiated accusations made against all those who are Masons. Such hatred does, indeed, appear to be so deep seated that it takes over their lives to such an extent that they become fixated on it as the truth. It matters not that Jeremy will never see freedom because they need to have that mind set to hang on to as proof that corruption, in certain quarters is alive, well and thriving..........................and I don't believe there is any comparison with that appalling football tragedy.

As for your last statement Jane--------you've said it----Masons.