What makes Bamber innocent?

[John]

It really is 'interesting' that  PS Bews , thought that when J's astra GTE turned its headlights into Pages Lane, off the Tollsbury Road, and he and the other two cops with him, thought it was 'their back up', CA05, arriving at the scene. Since, it was the occupants of CA05 which got deployed to the scene (3.36am) in response to J's call (3.36am), yet although mention en route to the scene, the occupants of CA07 had been made aware of J's call to PC West, there is no logical explanation for why they should have been deployed to this incident (3.35am) prior to J calling the cops at 3.36am. It's out of 'sync', ambiguous, contradictory, and rather puzzling...

That's because you invented the 3.36am call.  There only ever was one successful telephone call to the police and that was to PC West who then contacted police civilian operator Malcolm Bonnet to arrange deployments. If PC West or anyone else for that matter had spoken with Nevill Bamber then they would have given evidence to that effect.

[John]

I've been reading that there WAS a panic button at WHF during the time of the murders. It was explained by Vidvic,who would obviously have known,knowing the family. The post was made at 11.38pm on the night of December 3rd 2012.

This would answer my query about Neville having been found in the hall as was stated in a few newspapers when the tragedy was reported.

There wasn't.  Moral of the tale is don't believe all you read.

[mike tesko]

There wasn't.  Moral of the tale is don't believe all you read.

I agree, especially if 'it is posted by you', who has never had any direct contact with J, or access to independent case files...

[mike tesko]

For the record, 'I have in my possession', over 50,000 documents relating to the Bamber investigation, and J's private correspondence with his legal team, from the time prior to (and afterward) of J's October, 1986, Chelmsford Crown Court trial'...

The man 'killed', no-one...

[John]

I agree, especially if 'it is posted by you', who has never had any direct contact with J, or access to independent case files...

How would you know whether I have had contact with Jeremy because you certainly don't have any more. In fact didn't he ask you to stop promoting the nonsense you were doing as it was harming his chances of having a further appeal? 

[John]

For the record, 'I have in my possession', over 50,000 documents relating to the Bamber investigation, and J's private correspondence with his legal team, from the time prior to (and afterward) of J's October, 1986, Chelmsford Crown Court trial'...

The man 'killed', no-one...

So what?  The evidence says otherwise!

[Reader]

Had there been a panic button, surely Jeremy would have known about it, but he clearly didn't. Had a panic button been used, why wouldn't car CA05 have been contacted and told to get a move on? How come nothing has been posted here to explain how the time of precisely 03:29 could be known? If a panic button was used at 03:29, how come no car was sent to WHF until about six minutes after that?

[David1819]

So what?  The evidence says otherwise!

No it does not!

[mike tesko]

Had there been a panic button, surely Jeremy would have known about it, but he clearly didn't.

He did not know about it, and neither did Sheila. The only two people that 'knew' in the family were 'dad' and 'mum'. Although, J did know about the ' threats' made against dads life. He knew that dad had to pack his job in as Chairman of the Bench at Witham, because of the threats in question. J did not live at whf, neither did Sheila, and her kids. There was no reason for Sheila and J to know about the panic button. It is a feature of the police investigation that either dad, or mum activated the panic button at precisely 3.29am. Neither Sheila, nor J could have activated it, because neither of them were aware of its existence. Cops in charge, knew about dads call to cops at 3.26am, they knew that the panic button got activated at 3.29am, they knew  that J's call to PC West occurred 'after' the two aforementioned events, not before them. Dad left phone off the hook after he made the 3.26am call, followed by him activating the panic button. No reason is given for why the deployment of CA07 to the incident at 3.35am took 6 minutes to get underway. It may have had something to do with the fact that activation of the panic button interfered with the open phone line to the cops three minutes earlier.What we do know is that the occupants of CA07 were not deployed to the scene primarily acting on the back of what J had told them about, because J had not phoned PC West by that stage. CA07 were clearly acting upon some information obtained from another source. Once they were underway, the fact that J had also phoned the cops at 3.36am, confirming that there was some sort of a disturbance going on at the farm, was relayed to them from Chelmsford. At the same time this was done, Malcolm Bonnet updated dads phone log record to include mention that the 'son' of Mr Bamber had passed a message to cm...

[Neil]

No it does not!

Oh yes it does!

[John]

No it does not!

But it does, not one single piece of exculpatory evidence has ever been provided.

[John]

He did not know about it, and neither did Sheila. The only two people that 'knew' in the family were 'dad' and 'mum'.

Now you're just talking nonsense.  Jeremy knew everything that went on at the farm and that's a FACT!! 

You've just been caught out telling lies again...sooooooo predictable   

[Jane]

Now you're just talking nonsense.  Jeremy knew everything that went on at the farm and that's a FACT!! 

You've just been caught out telling lies again...sooooooo predictable   

And doesn't it just make every sense known to man............NOT!!!!!............ to have just ONE panic alarm in a house which could VERY well mean that one would have to walk into the very TEETH of the perceived danger in order to activate it? Duhhhhhh!!!!!!!

[John]

And doesn't it just make every sense known to man............NOT!!!!!............ to have just ONE panic alarm in a house which could VERY well mean that one would have to walk into the very TEETH of the perceived danger in order to activate it? Duhhhhhh!!!!!!!

Excellent point.  If Nevill had been in fear for his and June's life they would have had a secure bedroom/safe room too and been able to remain there until police arrived.  Had there been such security measure at White House Farm the details of it would have been contained within police statements, as it was they weren't.

[Jane]

Excellent point.  If Nevill had been in fear for his and June's life they would have had a secure bedroom/safe room too and been able to remain there until police arrived.  Had there been such security measure at White House Farm the details of it would have been contained within police statements, as it was they weren't.

And surely the first thing would have been to make certain that the house wasn't accessible via the windows that Jeremy had no trouble in opening. Heheheeee!!!!! I'm just laughing at the thought of a large, isolated house with ONE panic button.................. and any amount of windows that would open easily.