What makes Bamber innocent?

[lookout]

You can't win. If pic shows a clear,non-blemished face------------it's been enhanced.
If the pic shows it as it is---------it's not her.

[Jane]

You can't win. If pic shows a clear,non-blemished face------------it's been enhanced.
If the pic shows it as it is---------it's not her.

So you believed those previous pictures of "Sheila" and "June" in which the changing furniture suggested they'd been hauled from one room to another?

[mike tesko]

You can't win. If pic shows a clear,non-blemished face------------it's been enhanced.
If the pic shows it as it is---------it's not her.

On the contrary, I believe J can win...

[mike tesko]

So you believed those previous pictures of "Sheila" and "June" in which the changing furniture suggested they'd been hauled from one room to another?

Bear in mind, that this is a forum, not a court room. You know perfectly well, that cops 'interfered with the bodies of the victims', that cops (not J) staged Sheila Caffells death scene. You can pretend all you like that cops did 'no such thing', but deep down in your soul, you must know that cops staged the daughters body, not J, not some as yet unidentified hitman, mass murderer. I know, the cops know, and surely you and everybody else must know with 100% certainty, that J did not kill anyone, that its all a big deception as part of a cop cover up for tampering with the crime scene...

[mike tesko]

When did cops remove Sheila's earrings, and necklace?

Was it before PC Bird (soco) took pictures at the mortuary, or afterwards?

Right, here we go - Jewellery removed from 'Sheila' exhibit 'ND/4'...

[mike tesko]

Sheila's jewellery (ND/4) was removed from Sheila's body, by DS Davidson, prior to PC Bird (soco) taking his mortuary photographs. So, suddenly now this becomes an extremely 'important' and a 'significant topic'...

[lookout]

So you believed those previous pictures of "Sheila" and "June" in which the changing furniture suggested they'd been hauled from one room to another?

There is no doubt in my mind that bodies had been moved. June's body was described as being in the doorway at one point,but pics taken of her showed her to be behind the door.

[Jane]

Bear in mind, that this is a forum, not a court room. You know perfectly well, that cops 'interfered with the bodies of the victims', that cops (not J) staged Sheila Caffells death scene. You can pretend all you like that cops did 'no such thing', but deep down in your soul, you must know that cops staged the daughters body, not J, not some as yet unidentified hitman, mass murderer. I know, the cops know, and surely you and everybody else must know with 1005 certainty, that J did not kill anyone, that its all a big deception as part of a cop cover up for tampering with the crime scene and a cover up...

So are you saying that police hauled, not QUITE dead, Sheila and June into a room furnished differently from the master bedroom, to photograph them there, only to haul them back to the master bedroom again, to be rephotographed and to die? I'm not blind to the fact that taking pictures would necessitate movement of both body and accessories......................but there are limits.

[Jane]

There is no doubt in my mind that bodies had been moved. June's body was described as being in the doorway at one point,but pics taken of her showed her to be behind the door.

And was that door open or closed?

[lookout]

On the contrary, I believe J can win...

So do I Mike,but there's no pleasing some.

[lookout]

And was that door open or closed?

Open.



June had been photographed lying flat behind the door,yet blood on the back of the door indicates that she'd been propped up against it,where she'd obviously slid and so was moved to where she was photographed. 

[mike tesko]

So are you saying that police hauled, not QUITE dead, Sheila and June into a room furnished differently from the master bedroom, to photograph them there, only to haul them back to the master bedroom again, to be rephotographed and to die? I'm not blind to the fact that taking pictures would necessitate movement of both body and accessories......................but there are limits.

No, your suggesting 'that'...

What I am saying, is that this 'image of Sheila' was taken at the scene, between the 'first set of crime scene photographs', and 'the second lot', taken at a time 'after' cops had desperately attempted to keep this young woman 'alive'. That's what I am saying...

[mike tesko]

No, your suggesting 'that'...

What I am saying, is that this 'image of Sheila' was taken at the scene, between the 'first set of crime scene photographs', and 'the second lot', taken at a time 'after' cops had desperately attempted to keep this young woman 'alive'. That's what I am saying...

Now, my question is this, 'why would cops perform CPR on a person who must have already been dead over 7 hours previously'?

It simply and frankly does not add up...

[Jane]

No, your suggesting 'that'...

What I am saying, is that this 'image of Sheila' was taken at the scene, between the 'first set of crime scene photographs', and 'the second lot', taken at a time 'after' cops had desperately attempted to keep this young woman 'alive'. That's what I am saying...

Certainly NOT. It was you who suggested it when you posted those pictures INSISTING that the women in them were Sheila and June.........................Oh, and if desperate attempts were made to keep her alive, how come some of her ribs weren't broken? And where is the proof that such ever occurred?

[mike tesko]

The truth was, that they 'applied CPR' because they 'knew' that she had been shot and was presumed dead, very recently, and that the flow of fresh looking blood from the corners of her mouth, her nostril, and the 'two bullet wounds' on her throat, together with the state of her complexion, and total lack of rigor mortis, that they might, 'just might' have been able to snatch her back, from the jaws of death...