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Re: David1819 - forensic breakthrough claim
« Reply #75 on: April 05, 2016, 11:30:PM »
I genuinely suspect that Jane's real agenda on this forum might be to cover the real truth ...

Maybe she knows more than she is prepared to say ...

I really mean that for very good reason ...

If you analysise Jane's posts you will see she is obsessed with protecting the people who ended up with all the loot ...

And i really do wonder why ...
And what reason would that be Mr. Holmes? For an individual such as Jeremy Bamber, who was given a chance in life that most people of his generation could only dream of, not only to attempt to usurp land which had been tilled by the same families for generations but to kill those occupants in the process including the shooting of two infants in the head as they slept is an example of the grossest diablerie I could ever imagine.

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Re: David1819 - forensic breakthrough claim
« Reply #76 on: April 05, 2016, 11:31:PM »
Who was supposed to have tortured Neville ?

The hit man or Sheila ?

The murderer WHOEVER that was - but let's get back on topic Adam ...

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« Reply #77 on: April 05, 2016, 11:35:PM »
The murderer WHOEVER that was - but let's get back on topic Adam ...

There is no topic. A supporter has sent something to Andrew Hunter. But won't say what.

Why would the murderer torture Neville ? Bamber just wanted them dead. So would a hit man. And so would Sheila.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: David1819 - forensic breakthrough claim
« Reply #78 on: April 05, 2016, 11:35:PM »
And what reason would that be Mr. Holmes? For an individual such as Jeremy Bamber, who was given a chance in life that most people of his generation could only dream of, not only to attempt to usurp land which had been tilled by the same families for generations but to kill those occupants in the process including the shooting of two infants in the head as they slept is an example of the grossest diablerie I could ever imagine.

For the reason that i have analysed her posts and it is obvious ...

Jeremy was 100% family was he not ? or do you in some way disagree with that ?

I do agree to use your words that the murders were the "grossest diablerie " imaginable ...

But at the present time i like 2 Jury members still have some doubt that it was in fact Jeremy that did it ...

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Re: David1819 - forensic breakthrough claim
« Reply #79 on: April 05, 2016, 11:37:PM »
Classy, as always.

Haha, thank you Neil, but 'always' might be stretching it a bit.  :P

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Re: David1819 - forensic breakthrough claim
« Reply #80 on: April 05, 2016, 11:38:PM »
There is no topic. A supporter has sent something to Andrew Hunter. But won't say what.

Why would the murderer torture Neville ? Bamber just wanted them dead. So would a hit man. And so would Sheila.

Keep an open mind Adam ...

For all we know for sure the murderer could have been ANYBODY - not just the people you mention ...

I for one suspect everybody ...

Which is why my chances of uncovering the truth are higher than people who assume without actually knowing for absolute certain ...

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Re: David1819 - forensic breakthrough claim
« Reply #81 on: April 05, 2016, 11:41:PM »
How could Sheila burn her own back  ? She was supposed to have committed suicide.

He checked out Neville as he had put up a tremendous fight for life. So a good idea to make sure.

Sheila's back was not burnt Adam - only Neville's - so what's your point ?

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Re: David1819 - forensic breakthrough claim
« Reply #82 on: April 05, 2016, 11:44:PM »
Keep an open mind Adam ...

For all we know for sure the murderer could have been ANYBODY - not just the people you mention ...

I for one suspect everybody ...

Which is why my chances of uncovering the truth are higher than people who assume without actually knowing for absolute certain ...

Sorry Adam - i did not answer your question fully ...

The murderer would have burnt Nevilles back to force him to phone Jeremy ...

That's the theory ...

And it's actually the most likely explanation for the three burn marks on Neville's back ...

And it would explain why something similar was not done to June or Sheila ...
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Re: David1819 - forensic breakthrough claim
« Reply #83 on: April 05, 2016, 11:48:PM »
There is no topic. A supporter has sent something to Andrew Hunter. But won't say what.

David's approach is fair enough to me, although I don't necessarily understand the reluctance to have his theories tested on the forum.

Why he has chosen to say anything at all on the forum is a mystery, presumably he's sticking two fingers up at people who dismissing his opinions.  :-\

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Re: David1819 - forensic breakthrough claim
« Reply #84 on: April 05, 2016, 11:53:PM »
Sorry Adam - i did not answer your question fully ...

The murderer would have burnt Nevilles back to force him to phone Jeremy ...

That's the theory ...

And it's actually the most likely explanation for the three burn marks on Neville's back ...

And it would explain why something similar was not done to June or Sheila ...

Weren't the burns said to be made after he was already dead?

I thought I'd read that in Vanezis' reports but may be mistaken.

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Re: David1819 - forensic breakthrough claim
« Reply #85 on: April 05, 2016, 11:56:PM »
David's approach is fair enough to me, although I don't necessarily understand the reluctance to have his theories tested on the forum.

Why he has chosen to say anything at all is a mystery, presumably he's sticking two fingers up at people who dismissing his opinions.  :-\

It could be possible if he is on to something that by posting publicly it could tip off an as yet undiscovered guilty person that their number is up - allowing them to flee

That's just one possible example of why it would be a bad idea ...

For example if it turned out to prove Julie definitely lied it could encourage her to take on a new identity again - this time without telling the Police ...

Apart from satisfying our curiosity what possible good could it do to release it on the forum ?

I for one am happy to wait to read all about it in the Times should it prove to be substantial ...

If it does not get anywhere after the experts / lawyers have analysed it then there would be an advantage to posting it here ...

We are only drinkers in the last chance saloon not the people who should get first look at anything seriously relevant and new ...

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Re: David1819 - forensic breakthrough claim
« Reply #86 on: April 05, 2016, 11:57:PM »
Weren't the burns said to be made after he was already dead?

I thought I'd read that in Vanezis' reports but may be mistaken.

I will certainly look into it ...

Thank you for that ...

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« Reply #87 on: April 05, 2016, 11:59:PM »
I will certainly look into it ...

Thank you for that ...

I just had a quick look and couldn't find that, so I'm probably mistaken.

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Re: David1819 - forensic breakthrough claim
« Reply #88 on: April 06, 2016, 12:01:AM »
I just had a quick look and couldn't find that, so I'm probably mistaken.

I will have a look as well just to be absolutely sure ...

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Re: David1819 - forensic breakthrough claim
« Reply #89 on: April 06, 2016, 12:04:AM »
David intially annonced he had sent something off to Andrew Hunter several days ago.

When that made no impact he went to NGB, seeking his approval on the forum. As a fellow supporter, this was done.

I knew full well it would make no impact as so many baseless claims have been made before I don't blame anyone for not thinking much of it until now.

One reason I discussed with NGB was that by him revealing something the board it would somewhat revitalised the forum as all the discussions are stale and repetitive. Everyone now has something new to look forward to and its long overdue.


One problem, no one knows what this mysterious new evidence is.

I know, My Dad knows, NGB knows, Andrew Hunter knows and Jeremy and his legal team probably know by now also.

My first issue was and thought this through carefully. I made this finding almost three weeks ago now. Although at the time I was 90% convinced I made a significant breakthrough and now I have no doubt about it.

At the time my mind was telling me maybe its too good to be true? and by thinking that I then worried that if I did go public and turns out I was wrong the Campaign team would without a doubt use it a propaganda and that I didn't want to happen, that was my initial reason for secrecy.

Then a few days later I was told that going public would harm the legal process because if the Crown got news of it they would have more time to try and prepare for it so the later the better. So that is reason why I have not released anything to date.