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Offline David1819

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Re: David1819 - forensic breakthrough claim
« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2016, 05:20:PM »
Good show David, let's hope it is better than the nonsense the official team has generated lately.

But why Andrew Hunter, surely he has enough of his own demons to deal with?

He is contact with JBs current legal team and is interested in what I have. Also his legal team will take it more seriously if he presents it and not me.

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Re: David1819 - forensic breakthrough claim
« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2016, 05:22:PM »
He is contact with JBs current legal team and is interested in what I have. Also his legal team will take it more seriously if he presents it and not me.

I doubt it, but carry on.

The evidence against Jerry is overwhelming when all is considered.  I used to put the chances of him being innocent at 1% but even that is too optimistic imo.  If he ever wants to be released he will have to admit his guilt and pray that some parole board far down the line takes a shine to him and shows mercy.  His attempts to implicate Sheila will only seal his fate imo.

Maybe he is past caring.
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Re: David1819 - forensic breakthrough claim
« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2016, 05:27:PM »
Good show David, let's hope it is better than the nonsense the official team has generated lately.



The official team are so ineffective you would think they are imposters trying to ruin Jeremy's efforts

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Re: David1819 - forensic breakthrough claim
« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2016, 05:28:PM »
He is contact with JBs current legal team and is interested in what I have. Also his legal team will take it more seriously if he presents it and not me.

Like blood on Sheila's foot?  ::). So Andrew Hunter is interested? How is that any guarantee that what you have is of any use? Surely if it's that good, it wouldn't matter who presented it to them?
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Re: David1819 - forensic breakthrough claim
« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2016, 03:54:PM »


I have split the above posts from their original thread in order to deal with the claims made by david1819.

I will post again on this very soon with further information.

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Re: David1819 - forensic breakthrough claim
« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2016, 04:45:PM »
As can be seen from the posts in this thread, David1819 has claimed to have unearthed new evidence, of a forensic nature, which supports the defence case.  As David1819 has explained he sent details initially to Andrew Hunter, with a view to the material being reviewed by Jeremy Bamber's legal team.

There have been claims of an imminent breakthrough since the rejection of the last application to the CCRC and the subsequent  Judicial Review, but understandably there has been increasing scepticism in the absence of any detailed information about this.

In view some of the posts above, understandable in the circumstances, casting doubt on David1819's claim, he contacted me and asked if I would be prepared to review the material he had prepared, in confidence, and give him my opinion of it.  I agreed and received the material, reviewed it and gave David1819 my assessment.  David1819 then agreed that I could post my overall opinion of his work, without at this stage disclosing the details.  I am happy to do that and I agree with David1819's firm view, backed by the advice of Andrew Hunter, that Jeremy Bamber's legal team should review it and it should only be made public subject to their approval.

The material sent to me by David1819 is in the form of a report, which includes images and diagrams as well as text.  It is well written and well presented.  It analyses an important part of the evidence in the case, using methods not applied previously.  Although he accepts that he is not an expert in the relevant field, he has researched published works by experts in the field, quoting relevant extracts in support of his conclusions.  He has also studied relevant photographs and made calculations and measurements using techniques which to me seem appropriate.

David1819's conclusions support the defence case on this issue and specifically counter conclusions reached on this by the Court of Appeal in the 2002 appeal.

I am not an expert in the field involved and clearly for this to be presented to the CCRC as part of new submissions David1819's report and conclusions would have to be reviewed and validated by a suitably qualified expert.  However, I can see no reason to doubt the conclusions reached and have given david1819 my view in more detail.

If the report is validated the question is whether it could form the basis for the CCRC to refer the case.  For various reasons, hard to explain without giving more information than I am able to here, I believe it does satisfy the requirement that it is new evidence, not available at trial.  The key question is whether it is on its own sufficient to enable the convictions to be overturned.  I am very cautious about this as I believe the CCRC have now set a very high bar in this case.  Certainly this would form a valid ground of appeal, but ideally it should be joined with other grounds.  I am no longer in the loop as far as Jeremy Bamber's legal team are concerned, and have not been since Simon McKay ceased acting, but I do know of grounds not included in previous submissions which would have been included had the CCRC referred the case to the Court of Appeal on the last application.   I also understand that other work has been undertaken or is contemplated which may lead to additional grounds, but I have very limited knowledge of this.

I am sorry not to be able to give more detail but I hope members will understand why this is not possible  at this stage.  I will say however that David1819 was genuine in his claim to have discovered something new and important and that he has approached this in a serious and careful way.

         
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Re: David1819 - forensic breakthrough claim
« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2016, 04:49:PM »
The official team are so ineffective you would think they are imposters trying to ruin Jeremy's efforts

I wonder if Jeremy has seen the videos?

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Re: David1819 - forensic breakthrough claim
« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2016, 05:03:PM »
I don't think I KNOW. However Its not appropriate to post on this forum but it will come out in the public domain eventually.

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Re: David1819 - forensic breakthrough claim
« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2016, 05:32:PM »
Are we allowed to know in what area this new forensic evidence concerns itself? Is David angling for Jeremy Bamber to get off on a technicality when we know Sheila couldn't possibly have done what was ascribed to her?
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Re: David1819 - forensic breakthrough claim
« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2016, 05:33:PM »
I have to say a Well Done to David.I've realised for a while that he's probably known more than he's letting on. I remember saying many moons ago on here that I enjoyed reading his posts on the red forum and was wishing then that he was on this one. Well there you are. This is what happens when you have more interest in the case than a muddy bike and a wetsuit.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: David1819 - forensic breakthrough claim
« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2016, 05:36:PM »
 A big thank you to NGB for his part in explaining what could amount to a strong possibility in a search for the truth.

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Re: David1819 - forensic breakthrough claim
« Reply #26 on: April 05, 2016, 06:44:PM »
When Bamber is cleared, will any of the 'Bamber is guilty' clan, apologise for being wrong?

I doubt it...
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Re: David1819 - forensic breakthrough claim
« Reply #27 on: April 05, 2016, 06:47:PM »
What will any of the lab' experts say, once it becomes accepted that two identical parker hale silencers were used, to fool them into thinking that Bamber was guilty of shooting and killing his sister?
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Re: David1819 - forensic breakthrough claim
« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2016, 07:37:PM »
A big thank you to NGB for his part in explaining what could amount to a strong possibility in a search for the truth.

I agree Lookout and another big thank you to Ngb as he has put so much work into this case supporting Jeremy.

I have always enjoyed David's posts and sent him a PM recently.

Hopefully things are turning a corner in this case and we also have the forensic work Holly is involved in

Brilliant news David
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Re: David1819 - forensic breakthrough claim
« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2016, 07:47:PM »
Well it all seems to be done and dusted then, and Jeremy will get off on a technicality. However those who are well-informed on the case should just mention that any irregularity with the silencer evidence does not make him innocent.