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The Adam Johnson Case
« on: March 25, 2016, 02:04:PM »
A controversial case and a controversial sentence and you have to agree with some of the comments that have been made by Katie Hopkins (not one of my favourite people usually)

I am very interested in what Ngb makes of the sentencing




KATIE HOPKINS: Put away the rope, Adam Johnson broke the law – with a girl who knew EXACTLY what she was doing - but he’s not a paedophile and he doesn’t deserve prison and a Twitter lynching 


Eight hundred and thirty-four Whatsapp messages. That's the sum of it: 834 messages, sent between Adam Johnson and a teenage fan so besotted by a footballer she stood waiting for him on his birthday with a cake.
When she finally got to meet him in his car, she even recorded their sad fumblings in the dark, so she could prove to her mates she had only gone and done it — only snagged herself a footballer, a footballer who made it quite clear the next time they met he would be looking to get her jeans off and do much more then kiss.
She looked way older than 15 and acted way older than 15, something 'everyone told her' all the time.
But now, thanks to a bit of healthy overdramatising of the affair and the baying mob on Twitter, she is the victim.
Instead of being a hormonal teen stalking someone famous for attention, desperate for a chance to have something her friends do not, she's a tiny little child so prepubescent and naive that he's the ‘paedo’ and she's the one who has been groomed.
And the Twitter mob and the press is buying her story. Inexplicably, they love the idea she is just an innocent child behind a screen, sat there in a training bra and ankle socks, looking for nothing more than a signed shirt and a season ticket to Sunderland.
They gather with their stones, waiting to throw them at the 'dirty nonce', reinforcing each other's daft logic, goading each other to give him a beating, kick him whilst he's down, watch him lose everything they never had but always wanted.
Look around at these people. They are no different to the nutters of ISIS gathering to watch gay men thrown from buildings. ‘Civilised’ society condoning human barbarity only because the law is on its side — no matter if the law is an arse.
'He's guilty because he said he did it.' So many people naively believing that how you plead has any relevance to what actually happened.

Yes, the girl in this case was 15. But can we truly define the age of sexual consent by something so arbitrary as a number?
A third of all 14 to 16 year olds are sexually active. You might argue that most of this activity won't be with grown men. But in in Italy and Germany, where the age of consent is 14, they clearly define our young persons’ march into adulthood a lot more progressively then we do here in the UK.
We have to look at the individual. Was she physically, emotionally, psychologically aware of what she or he was doing?
She was.
She waited to meet him, willingly handed over her number, recorded their meetings to brag to mates, and was perfectly aware of what he wanted when she clambered into his car.
Not only that, but she was the one going back for more.
Yes Adam Johnson, knew how old she was.
Yes, he is a cheating, selfish, arrogant, dick-driven, dim-witted specimen who clearly wasn’t worthy of his God-given talent or his loyal girlfriend and the daughter she bore him.
But if all that was a crime we would have to lock up half the young (and not-so-young) men in Britain.

The law is a game of strategy and tactics. Adam Johnson was going to plead innocent, switched tactics, and got it wrong.
It's the same reason people settle out of court. Not because they are guilty, but because it is financially prudent when faced with the shocking costs of a trial in court.
I have never loved Lord Sugar more than when he stood up to the blonde dimwit Stella English, refusing to pay her off on principle, and won.
'Well you wouldn't like it if it was your daughter getting her hymen stretched,' screeched a creepy member of the mob.
You are right again. But then, I wouldn't have too much sympathy for my daughter, either. If you play with fire, you get your fingers burned, and if you promise a bloke he can do more, he'll take your fifty shades of grey and make it pretty damn black and white.
I'd be wanting to know why my daughter was schlepping round after some lame-brain footballer who probably can't even read when she should be better than that.

The law is a game of strategy and tactics. Adam Johnson was going to plead innocent, switched tactics, and got it wrong.
It's the same reason people settle out of court. Not because they are guilty, but because it is financially prudent when faced with the shocking costs of a trial in court.
I have never loved Lord Sugar more than when he stood up to the blonde dimwit Stella English, refusing to pay her off on principle, and won.
'Well you wouldn't like it if it was your daughter getting her hymen stretched,' screeched a creepy member of the mob.
You are right again. But then, I wouldn't have too much sympathy for my daughter, either. If you play with fire, you get your fingers burned, and if you promise a bloke he can do more, he'll take your fifty shades of grey and make it pretty damn black and white.
I'd be wanting to know why my daughter was schlepping round after some lame-brain footballer who probably can't even read when she should be better than that.

"No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle" Winston Churchill

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Re: The Adam Johnson Case
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2016, 10:28:PM »
who was that directed at.
« Last Edit: March 25, 2016, 10:29:PM by nugnug »

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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2016, 10:35:PM »
He broke the law. He knew what the law was and he broke it and tried to cover it up. Disagreeing with the law doesn't excuse his actions. He used his fame, position and notoriety to woo the girl. She was underage. He was an adult.

Not too surprised xxx xxx xxxx xxxx a good looking young man locked up though.

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Re: The Adam Johnson Case
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2016, 10:53:PM »
and the end of the day so his only got himself to blame i mean he knows the law.

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Re: The Adam Johnson Case
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2016, 11:30:PM »
Neil, please pack the bad language in.
You have been warned by pm and on the forum. Thanks

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Re: The Adam Johnson Case
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2016, 11:39:PM »
Why am I being censored for effing and geoffing a little, while we still have that Hopkin ***+$ vile ramblings on display?


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Re: The Adam Johnson Case
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2016, 11:44:PM »
Why am I being censored for effing and geoffing a little, while we still have that Hopkin ***+$ vile ramblings on display?
Because yo u are being offensive.
Think we've all gathered you don't agree with the post. It's your opinion and nothing wrong with you expressing it without all the swearing and abuse.

Other people have the right to express their opinions, without swearing as well.
If you continue to be abusive I will ban you cos it's boring and I'm tired.

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Re: The Adam Johnson Case
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2016, 11:53:PM »
Because yo u are being offensive.
Think we've all gathered you don't agree with the post. It's your opinion and nothing wrong with you expressing it without all the swearing and abuse.

Other people have the right to express their opinions, without swearing as well.
If you continue to be abusive I will ban you cos it's boring and I'm tired.
Ok.  Hopkins is an attention seeker, who knows no bounds.

Her views on this case are utterly abhorrent and are patently ridiculous.  Certain people will find her ramblings extremely upsetting.  Please delete. 

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Re: The Adam Johnson Case
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2016, 11:54:PM »
There was no proof at all of the charge Adam Johnson was found guilty of
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« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2016, 11:57:PM »
i havent follwed the case but i wouldent consider katie hopkins a reliable source.
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Re: The Adam Johnson Case
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2016, 12:03:AM »
There was no proof at all of the charge Adam Johnson was found guilty of
May I respectfully ask......what makes you think that you are better equipped to judge this case, than the twelve members of the jury? 


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Re: The Adam Johnson Case
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2016, 12:04:AM »
i havent follwed the case but i wouldent consider katie a reliable source.
Good god!

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Re: The Adam Johnson Case
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2016, 12:07:AM »
Ok.  Hopkins is an attention seeker, who knows no bounds.

Her views on this case are utterly abhorrent and are patently ridiculous.  Certain people will find her ramblings extremely upsetting.  Please delete.
That's better but no I won't delete it.

Imo it's an acceptable subject to debate.

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Re: The Adam Johnson Case
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2016, 12:18:AM »
"No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle" Winston Churchill

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Re: The Adam Johnson Case
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2016, 12:19:AM »
i cant see anything on that page.