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« Reply #300 on: March 26, 2016, 01:59:PM »





Isn't that the way it goes on here when you're a lone wolf ?  ::)

Have no fear, Lookout. You've a long way to go before you're held in the xxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx xxx xxxxxx.
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« Reply #301 on: March 26, 2016, 02:11:PM »
It's clear Jackie has 'agreed entirely' with Lelabebs derogatory comment to me in the hope it will make her arguments stronger. The fact is she probably doesn't even know what she's 'entirely agreed' with  ::)

My comment was to Mrs Shipman not you Stephanie.

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« Reply #302 on: March 26, 2016, 05:37:PM »
My comment was to Mrs Shipman not you Stephanie.

Hmmmmm, powers of deduction leave much to be desired!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #303 on: March 26, 2016, 06:56:PM »
Jeremy had said that he'd left the rifle on the settle in the kitchen area. Did he have to disclose where he'd left it ? No. Because he was telling the truth. He could just as easy have said he'd put it back in the cupboard for all anyone knew. Then what would have been made out of that to implicate him ?
Not once has he covered anything up. He hasn't needed to.

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« Reply #304 on: March 26, 2016, 07:08:PM »
Jeremy had said that he'd left the rifle on the settle in the kitchen area. Did he have to disclose where he'd left it ? No. Because he was telling the truth. He could just as easy have said he'd put it back in the cupboard for all anyone knew. Then what would have been made out of that to implicate him ?
Not once has he covered anything up. He hasn't needed to.


He NEEDED to let it be known that the rifle was left where anyone, allegedly wishing to use it to shoot the family, would have easy access to it.

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« Reply #305 on: March 26, 2016, 07:47:PM »

He NEEDED to let it be known that the rifle was left where anyone, allegedly wishing to use it to shoot the family, would have easy access to it.





He didn't need to at all. Sheila knew where the guns were kept,she was by no means stupid.

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« Reply #306 on: March 26, 2016, 07:50:PM »




He didn't need to at all. Sheila knew where the guns were kept,she was by no means stupid.






Access couldn't have been easier as there was no lock,etc on the gun cupboard. If I was going to shoot someone,I wouldn't make it so obvious by leaving the gun out.
How do we know that Neville hadn't put it away,considering the twins were there ?

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« Reply #307 on: March 26, 2016, 07:57:PM »




He didn't need to at all. Sheila knew where the guns were kept,she was by no means stupid.


Lookout, WHY are you being xx xxxxxx? Of COURSE Sheila knew where guns were kept, but if you've ever done stage management, you'll know that it's always assumed that the audience knows zilch, ergo the scene has to be laid out for them. Jeremy was creating the scene so that the police were able to visualize what he laid out for them.
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« Reply #308 on: March 26, 2016, 08:14:PM »

Lookout, WHY are you being xx xxxxxx.? Of COURSE Sheila knew where guns were kept, but if you've ever done stage management, you'll know that it's always assumed that the audience knows zilch, ergo the scene has to be laid out for them. Jeremy was creating the scene so that the police were able to visualize what he laid out for them.





No,that's too simple. Then you obviously like simple as did the police.Nothing too taxing.
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« Reply #309 on: March 26, 2016, 08:17:PM »
The stage was being set alright,for one of the biggest MOJ's this country has ever seen. Watch this space.

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« Reply #310 on: March 26, 2016, 11:21:PM »




No,that's too simple. Then you obviously like simple as did the police.Nothing too taxing.

The police liked simple did they? Then they would have stuck with their initial conclusion - that Sheila was responsible. They made it far more complicated when they turned to Jeremy and it also made them look incompetent but they still stuck to their guns. So the simple answer was that Sheila killed everyone then killed herself - isn't that what you think too?  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #311 on: March 27, 2016, 08:42:AM »
Hmmmmm, powers of deduction leave much to be desired!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I can see my sarcasm went straight over your head.

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« Reply #312 on: March 27, 2016, 08:50:AM »




No,that's too simple. Then you obviously like simple as did the police.Nothing too taxing.

For you, I suppose it is. You've used every convoluted trick in the book to detract from the truth in order to try to prove that Jeremy is innocent. They had SIMPLE there in front of them, Lookout. Just as Jeremy told them. Signed, sealed and delivered. Crime solved. How much MORE simple do you think it could have been?

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« Reply #313 on: March 27, 2016, 09:19:AM »
For you, I suppose it is. You've used every convoluted trick in the book to detract from the truth in order to try to prove that Jeremy is innocent. They had SIMPLE there in front of them, Lookout. Just as Jeremy told them. Signed, sealed and delivered. Crime solved. How much MORE simple do you think it could have been?

"Detract from the truth..."? What is the truth? IMO the truth is he's innocent.

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« Reply #314 on: March 27, 2016, 10:07:AM »

He NEEDED to let it be known that the rifle was left where anyone, allegedly wishing to use it to shoot the family, would have easy access to it.

Of course, he had to make it look easy.  The difficulty for him though was that the .22 rifle was problematic and was incapable of killing using one bullet even at point blank range, the bullets just don't have sufficient velocity. The killer had to fire multiple shots to put his victim down requiring reloading at least once.  None of this was in Bamber's plan.  His need to reload meant Nevill could get to the kitchen where the fight ensued, a fight which Sheila could never have participated in. 

The logic in this case is easy to see, the silencer issue is merely a distraction.
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