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Re: Latest Vlog _ Jeremy's Polygraph Test_2
« Reply #285 on: March 25, 2016, 12:47:PM »
1.5 OASys is a risk and needs assessment tool. A new assessment system was developed because none of the existing tools and inventories fully met the requirements for consistent assessment to help practitioners make sound and defensible decisions. OASys contributes towards ensuring security and control through the identification and management of risk. OASys identifies and classifies offending related needs, such as a lack of accommodation, poor educational and employment skills, substance misuse, relationship problems, and problems with thinking and attitudes. It also assesses the risk of harm offenders pose to themselves and others. From these assessments, sentence plans are drawn up within OASys to manage and reduce these risks. Thereby, OASys will help target interventions, making them more effective, and contribute towards reducing re-offending and protecting the public.
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Re: Latest Vlog _ Jeremy's Polygraph Test_2
« Reply #286 on: March 25, 2016, 01:05:PM »
Quote from: Mrs Shipman on March 25, 2016, 12:33:PM
Or maybe because of this...



Monday, 14 February 2011
Psychological findings on Jeremy Bamber
“As a high profile case, a category ‘A’ prisoner, and a whole life tariff prisoner I have undergone a number of psychological assessments by twenty seven different psychologists. Each carried out numerous tests on me and some interviewed me for twenty hours or more over many weeks.

The most recent assessment of me was carried out last in 2009 by Professor Vincent Egan a Chartered Clinical psychologist and senior lecturer in forensic psychology at Leicester University. He was provided with my complete psychological file and all my medical records. He also interviewed me, and I completed various psychological tests before he wrote his report on me.

His conclusion is that I am not a psychopath. During the last quarter of a century and twenty seven different psychologists, not a single one of these experts has concluded that I show any traits consistent with psychopathy.

On the ‘Hare’ psychopathy test it was concluded that 95% of the population show more psychopathic traits than I do. I have also had 3 P.C.L.R tests that are designed specifically to reveal psychopathy and all 3 concluded the same, I am not a psychopath. Nor do I have any personality disorder."
Posted by Jeremy Bamber at Monday, February 14, 2011

A classic example of Bamber being economical with the truth...

ALL prisoners, apart from (normally) those serving less than 12 months, are assessed in the same way Bamber has been. His 'high profile' status makes no difference (though I imagine it makes him feel good stating this) nor does his prisoner categorisation.

Bamber mentions 'some' of the psychologists that tested him over the years interviewed him for more than 20 hours or more..

I imagine the 'some' to be one or two.. He would have been interviewed at length (probably over 20 hours) pre trial and 'maybe' on another occasion but certainly not every year...

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Re: Latest Vlog _ Jeremy's Polygraph Test_2
« Reply #287 on: March 25, 2016, 06:17:PM »
Quote from: Mrs Shipman on March 25, 2016, 12:33:PM
Or maybe because of this...



Monday, 14 February 2011
Psychological findings on Jeremy Bamber
“As a high profile case, a category ‘A’ prisoner, and a whole life tariff prisoner I have undergone a number of psychological assessments by twenty seven different psychologists. Each carried out numerous tests on me and some interviewed me for twenty hours or more over many weeks.

The most recent assessment of me was carried out last in 2009 by Professor Vincent Egan a Chartered Clinical psychologist and senior lecturer in forensic psychology at Leicester University. He was provided with my complete psychological file and all my medical records. He also interviewed me, and I completed various psychological tests before he wrote his report on me.

His conclusion is that I am not a psychopath. During the last quarter of a century and twenty seven different psychologists, not a single one of these experts has concluded that I show any traits consistent with psychopathy.

On the ‘Hare’ psychopathy test it was concluded that 95% of the population show more psychopathic traits than I do. I have also had 3 P.C.L.R tests that are designed specifically to reveal psychopathy and all 3 concluded the same, I am not a psychopath. Nor do I have any personality disorder."
Posted by Jeremy Bamber at Monday, February 14, 2011

Where did he pull that statistic from? I'm gathering these are his own conclusions...
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Re: Latest Vlog _ Jeremy's Polygraph Test_2
« Reply #288 on: March 25, 2016, 06:22:PM »
Mrs hall why have you changed your name ????
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Re: Latest Vlog _ Jeremy's Polygraph Test_2
« Reply #289 on: March 25, 2016, 06:27:PM »
Quote from: Mrs Shipman on March 25, 2016, 12:33:PM

Monday, 14 February 2011
Psychological findings on Jeremy Bamber

“As a high profile case, a category ‘A’ prisoner, and a whole life tariff prisoner I have undergone a number of psychological assessments by twenty seven different psychologists. Each carried out numerous tests on me and some interviewed me for twenty hours or more over many weeks.

The most recent assessment of me was carried out last in 2009 by Professor Vincent Egan a Chartered Clinical psychologist and senior lecturer in forensic psychology at Leicester University. He was provided with my complete psychological file and all my medical records. He also interviewed me, and I completed various psychological tests before he wrote his report on me.

His conclusion is that I am not a psychopath. During the last quarter of a century and twenty seven different psychologists, not a single one of these experts has concluded that I show any traits consistent with psychopathy.

On the ‘Hare’ psychopathy test it was concluded that 95% of the population show more psychopathic traits than I do. I have also had 3 P.C.L.R tests that are designed specifically to reveal psychopathy and all 3 concluded the same, I am not a psychopath. Nor do I have any personality disorder."
Posted by Jeremy Bamber at Monday, February 14, 2011

Quote from: Mrs Shipman on March 25, 2016, 12:34:PM
With a little bit of truth thrown in...  ::)

To make this clear - Bamber is talking about self assessments. Self assessments that can be, and often are, manipulated..
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Re: Latest Vlog _ Jeremy's Polygraph Test_2
« Reply #290 on: March 26, 2016, 07:43:AM »
Quote from: Mrs Shipman on March 25, 2016, 01:05:PM
A classic example of Bamber being economical with the truth...

ALL prisoners, apart from (normally) those serving less than 12 months, are assessed in the same way Bamber has been. His 'high profile' status makes no difference (though I imagine it makes him feel good stating this) nor does his prisoner categorisation.

Bamber mentions 'some' of the psychologists that tested him over the years interviewed him for more than 20 hours or more..

I imagine the 'some' to be one or two.. He would have been interviewed at length (probably over 20 hours) pre trial and 'maybe' on another occasion but certainly not every year...

You have a fertile imagination.
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Re: Latest Vlog _ Jeremy's Polygraph Test_2
« Reply #291 on: March 26, 2016, 08:25:AM »
Quote from: lebaleb on March 26, 2016, 07:43:AM
You have a fertile imagination.


Or probably a far more intimate knowledge of how prisoners' lives are directed than have you.
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Re: Latest Vlog _ Jeremy's Polygraph Test_2
« Reply #292 on: March 26, 2016, 12:46:PM »
Quote from: lebaleb on March 26, 2016, 07:43:AM
You have a fertile imagination.

OMG! That's rich!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Latest Vlog _ Jeremy's Polygraph Test_2
« Reply #293 on: March 26, 2016, 01:18:PM »
Quote from: lebaleb on March 26, 2016, 07:43:AM
You have a fertile imagination.

I agree completely
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Re: Latest Vlog _ Jeremy's Polygraph Test_2
« Reply #294 on: March 26, 2016, 01:29:PM »
Quote from: JackiePreece on March 26, 2016, 01:18:PM
I agree completely

You are, once again, projecting!
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Re: Latest Vlog _ Jeremy's Polygraph Test_2
« Reply #295 on: March 26, 2016, 01:35:PM »
Quote from: JackiePreece on March 26, 2016, 01:18:PM
I agree completely


Only if you, too, have been in the situation in which Steph found herself, would you qualify to make that remark. Are we to take it that you have such intimate knowledge?
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Re: Latest Vlog _ Jeremy's Polygraph Test_2
« Reply #296 on: March 26, 2016, 01:41:PM »
Quote from: Jane J on March 26, 2016, 01:35:PM

Only if you, too, have been in the situation in which Steph found herself, would you qualify to make that remark. Are we to take it that you have such intimate knowledge?

It's clear Jackie has 'agreed entirely' with Lelabebs derogatory comment to me in the hope it will make her arguments stronger. The fact is she probably doesn't even know what she's 'entirely agreed' with  ::)
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Re: Latest Vlog _ Jeremy's Polygraph Test_2
« Reply #297 on: March 26, 2016, 01:45:PM »
Quote from: Stephanie on March 26, 2016, 01:41:PM
It's clear Jackie has 'agreed entirely' with Lelabebs derogatory comment to me in the hope it will make her arguments stronger. The fact is she probably doesn't even know what she's 'entirely agreed' with  ::)


To paraphrase MRD, "Well, she would, wouldn't she?" She's got very little in the way of support from anyone else here so I guess she'll join in with anyone she thinks will agree with her.
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« Reply #298 on: March 26, 2016, 01:55:PM »
Quote from: Jane J on March 26, 2016, 01:45:PM

To paraphrase MRD, "Well, she would, wouldn't she?" She's got very little in the way of support from anyone else here so I guess she'll join in with anyone she thinks will agree with her.






Isn't that the way it goes on here when you're a lone wolf ?  ::)
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« Reply #299 on: March 26, 2016, 01:58:PM »
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Isn't that the way it goes on here when you're a lone wolf ?  ::)

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