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[Caroline]

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To be fair, I have to agree with Lookout, I don't agree with much that Tb has said so far but she is trying to do something. She has put her money where her mouth is and I would have thought being Jeremy's No1 fan - you would be supporting her instead of making catty comments such as this. I'd say you were xxxxxxx.

[Stephanie]

You can't even hear most of it but I watched it and I actually agree that the wet suit and bicycle theory is rubbish.

I agreed, the bicycle and wetsuit theory were/are ridiculous. But just like the SH case, and many other cases, the prosecution case is quite often just that - a theory.

In the SH case it turned out the motive wasn't a burglary gone wrong and the prosecutions theory was way off.

Like the Bamber case, no one saw SH on the night in question, therefore I don't believe it relevant that Bamber wasn't seen.

I think there's a possibility he'd already murdered his family and may have arrived home at Goldhanger in his car at approx 10pm ish or whenever. And/or, the neighbours who thought they heard the car may have been wrong - as we're the numerous witnesses in the SH case, when it was suggested noises were heard at 2am by a dozen or more neighbours.

[Stephanie]

I think the personal comments about Trudi and her attire are uncalled for.

[JackiePreece]

To be fair, I have to agree with Lookout, I don't agree with much that Tb has said so far but she is trying to do something. She has put her money where her mouth is and I would have thought being Jeremy's No1 fan - you would be supporting her instead of making catty comments such as this. I'd say you were xxxxxxx.

Fortunately you have no idea what goes on behind the scenes. I did make Ngb aware by pm today but it's not something I am willing to post on an open forum.  I continue to believe the campaign team do more harm than good but there are numerous people working independently that will most likely make sure this conviction is overturned

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[Caroline]

I agreed, the bicycle and wetsuit theory were/are ridiculous. But just like the SH case, and many other cases, the prosecution case is quite often just that - a theory.

In the SH case it turned out the motive wasn't a burglary gone wrong and the prosecutions theory was way off.

Like the Bamber case, no one saw SH on the night in question, therefore I don't believe it relevant that Bamber wasn't seen.

I think there's a possibility he'd already murdered his family and may have arrived home at Goldhanger in his car at approx 10pm ish or whenever. And/or, the neighbours who thought they heard the car may have been wrong - as we're the numerous witnesses in the SH case, when it was suggested noises were heard at 2am by a dozen or more neighbours.

They had to be still alive between 10:00 and 10:30 because June spoke to her sister Pam, during that time. Jeremy made a big thing about leaving the farm that night because he wanted the Foakes's to see him go. I think he walked by over the fields - hardly surprising that no one saw him - why would they?

[lookout]

I think the personal comments about Trudi and her attire are uncalled for.

Like I said--------the woman is doing her best and at long last JB has got a  "mouthpiece" who appears to be a decent and honest kind of person who means well. Makes a change really.

[JackiePreece]

I agreed, the bicycle and wetsuit theory were/are ridiculous. But just like the SH case, and many other cases, the prosecution case is quite often just that - a theory.

In the SH case it turned out the motive wasn't a burglary gone wrong and the prosecutions theory was way off.

Like the Bamber case, no one saw SH on the night in question, therefore I don't believe it relevant that Bamber wasn't seen.

I think there's a possibility he'd already murdered his family and may have arrived home at Goldhanger in his car at approx 10pm ish or whenever. And/or, the neighbours who thought they heard the car may have been wrong - as we're the numerous witnesses in the SH case, when it was suggested noises were heard at 2am by a dozen or more neighbours.

We are discussing the JB case not the Simon Hall case

[Stephanie]

Like I said--------the woman is doing her best and at long last JB has got a  "mouthpiece" who appears to be a decent and honest kind of person who means well. Makes a change really.

I agree Lookout! Absolutely!

[guest154]

They had to be still alive between 10:00 and 10:30 because June spoke to her sister Pam, during that time. Jeremy made a big thing about leaving the farm that night because he wanted the Foakes's to see him go. I think he walked by over the fields - hardly surprising that no one saw him - why would they?

You mean Bamber wasn't seen, in the dead of night - in the countryside?    I wonder why.

I don't believe in the wetsuit theory either.  But then again I don't know any guilter that does.

One good thing I will say about Trudi is at least she knows the case. She is willing to say that she believes in his innocence and ABLE to say WHY that is. That sets her apart from some of the other supporters.

[Stephanie]

They had to be still alive between 10:00 and 10:30 because June spoke to her sister Pam, during that time. Jeremy made a big thing about leaving the farm that night because he wanted the Foakes's to see him go. I think he walked by over the fields - hardly surprising that no one saw him - why would they?

I realised this after i made my post. I still think there's a possibility he drove and wasn't heard. It's not impossible. No one recalled seeing SH at 5.30am-6am on his drive from the town to the village, and there was traffic about at that time.

He could have driven off loudly and parked his car up a few hundred yards away from WHF. There are numerous possibilities but I don't think a bike was involved nor do I think he walked very far... Just my thoughts....

[Stephanie]

Just like the SH case, Bamber was 'at large' for some time after the murders. He therefore had plenty of time to dispose of the clothes he was wearing that night. His (Bambers) body had time to heal from any minor injuries caused...

[maggie]

I have locked the thread yet again and shall leave it like this until tomorrow.

Please do not just continue this behaviour on another thread or I shall be banning people, this behaviour is unacceptable.

[Stephanie]

Not only see it, but mention it in her VLOGS - there is a certain amount of selectivity going on and the OS is completely misleading when it talks of the 27 tests.

Or maybe because of this...



Monday, 14 February 2011
Psychological findings on Jeremy Bamber
“As a high profile case, a category ‘A’ prisoner, and a whole life tariff prisoner I have undergone a number of psychological assessments by twenty seven different psychologists. Each carried out numerous tests on me and some interviewed me for twenty hours or more over many weeks.

The most recent assessment of me was carried out last in 2009 by Professor Vincent Egan a Chartered Clinical psychologist and senior lecturer in forensic psychology at Leicester University. He was provided with my complete psychological file and all my medical records. He also interviewed me, and I completed various psychological tests before he wrote his report on me.

His conclusion is that I am not a psychopath. During the last quarter of a century and twenty seven different psychologists, not a single one of these experts has concluded that I show any traits consistent with psychopathy.

On the ‘Hare’ psychopathy test it was concluded that 95% of the population show more psychopathic traits than I do. I have also had 3 P.C.L.R tests that are designed specifically to reveal psychopathy and all 3 concluded the same, I am not a psychopath. Nor do I have any personality disorder."
Posted by Jeremy Bamber at Monday, February 14, 2011

[Stephanie]

Or maybe because of this...



Monday, 14 February 2011
Psychological findings on Jeremy Bamber
“As a high profile case, a category ‘A’ prisoner, and a whole life tariff prisoner I have undergone a number of psychological assessments by twenty seven different psychologists. Each carried out numerous tests on me and some interviewed me for twenty hours or more over many weeks.

The most recent assessment of me was carried out last in 2009 by Professor Vincent Egan a Chartered Clinical psychologist and senior lecturer in forensic psychology at Leicester University. He was provided with my complete psychological file and all my medical records. He also interviewed me, and I completed various psychological tests before he wrote his report on me.

His conclusion is that I am not a psychopath. During the last quarter of a century and twenty seven different psychologists, not a single one of these experts has concluded that I show any traits consistent with psychopathy.

On the ‘Hare’ psychopathy test it was concluded that 95% of the population show more psychopathic traits than I do. I have also had 3 P.C.L.R tests that are designed specifically to reveal psychopathy and all 3 concluded the same, I am not a psychopath. Nor do I have any personality disorder."
Posted by Jeremy Bamber at Monday, February 14, 2011

With a little bit of truth thrown in... 

[Stephanie]

With a little bit of truth thrown in... 

3.4 The self-assessment questionnaire must be completed on paper, and must be signed, when printed, by the offender and retained in the offender’s OASys file. A new SAQ must be completed during each subsequent review. The details are entered onto the SAQ within the OASys system, so that it is easily accessible to those who will view the assessment in future and is available for data analysis.

https://www.justice.gov.uk/downloads/offenders/psipso/pso/PSO_2205_offender_assessment_and_sentence_management.doc