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Offline mike tesko

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Re: what do jeremys demands for further tests on the silencer prove.
« Reply #345 on: March 25, 2016, 09:08:PM »
Doesn't matter how many statements she made - she still doesn't mention the wet suit as being part of the crime.

You cannot possibly know that to be true. Let me tell you for why. Mugford was seen over 30 times before she testified, yet whatever she and Jones spoke about on all these occasions, has never yet been fully reported. Work it out for yourself, why so much secrecy?
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Re: what do jeremys demands for further tests on the silencer prove.
« Reply #346 on: March 25, 2016, 09:12:PM »
Hang on a minute...

According to the records, how many witness statements were made Julie Mugfords name, or how many witness statements did Julie Mugford make herself, as compared to to 31 times that DS Jones interviewed her? She know that DS Jones spike to Julie Mugford on over 30 separate occasions, and that she had interviewed under caution...

It is my view, that DS Jones did speak to Julie Mugford, about things mentioned in the RWB diary extracts, amongst other things...


well why the need for so many interviews there no real logical explantion for it.
Furthermore, it simply cannot be a coincidence, that on the very same day that RWB goes to see ACC Peter Simpson ( a fellow Freemason), on the 6th September, 1985, that thereabouts, or soon after, Julie Mugford supposedly goes voluntarily (escorted by her best pal) to fess up to DS Stan Jones...

I think there must have been some collusion of sorts between the relatives and Julie Mugford...

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Re: what do jeremys demands for further tests on the silencer prove.
« Reply #347 on: March 25, 2016, 11:35:PM »




I'm sick and tired of repeating myself over and over again. It's pointless because whatever I say it gets dissed immediately,so what's the point in me explaining anything ? It's bloody soul-destroying.
I don't know why I'm on here to be quite honest. I've had enough.

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Re: what do jeremys demands for further tests on the silencer prove.
« Reply #348 on: March 26, 2016, 07:36:AM »
Only an accomplished rifle user could have made so many on target shots and missed but once.  Sheila certainly didn't fall into that category in a normal disposition let alone if under the influence of some supposed schizophrenic paranoia episode.  I'm afraid the 'Sheila-dun-it' theory is well past its sell-by date.  Just another myth!

That's a totally ignorant and spurious reply. You suggest that it is an accomplishment to hit someone lying in bed or that the shots to torso arms and legs were 'on target'. Neville had been shot in the head at close range at least twice in the bedroom meaning he was in no condition to dodge bullets.
You obviously know nothing about people having psychotic episodes. Delusions are in the brain and have no physically disabling effect, in fact they become manic [look it up if you don't know what that means].

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Re: what do jeremys demands for further tests on the silencer prove.
« Reply #349 on: March 26, 2016, 12:01:PM »
Taking your ball and going home again?  ::)





What ? And spoil your fun of thinking you've beaten someone ? No chance !!

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Re: what do jeremys demands for further tests on the silencer prove.
« Reply #350 on: March 26, 2016, 12:19:PM »
That's a totally ignorant and spurious reply. You suggest that it is an accomplishment to hit someone lying in bed or that the shots to torso arms and legs were 'on target'. Neville had been shot in the head at close range at least twice in the bedroom meaning he was in no condition to dodge bullets.
You obviously know nothing about people having psychotic episodes. Delusions are in the brain and have no physically disabling effect, in fact they become manic [look it up if you don't know what that means].





I've seen a psychotic person in action,and they can kill in a matter of seconds from being lucid or deep in thought------quiet and unassuming,to violent at the flick of a switch in their brain. I still have an old scar-tissue which is visible via a CT scan to prove the lasting damage which can be done by the violence to which they're noted for.
I'd been physically thrown onto an iron-framed bed which I was making after having had a " sensible " conversation with such a patient ( psychotic ). I was winded and suffered bruising to my back/ribs and an x-ray showed a cracked rib which had stopped short of puncturing a lung but damaging the pleura between the ribcage. That still shows up today.
If I hadn't have got away,the girl would surely have killed me. Patients like this were kept in locked cells and if you had to go into these cells,you locked the door behind you to save them making a run for it because their strength and energy is something else.
Until anyone has ever been involved with anyone having an " episode " they've no idea whatsoever.

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Re: what do jeremys demands for further tests on the silencer prove.
« Reply #351 on: March 26, 2016, 12:33:PM »




What ? And spoil your fun of thinking you've beaten someone ? No chance !!

That's the spirit, Lookout ;D ;D ;D

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Re: what do jeremys demands for further tests on the silencer prove.
« Reply #352 on: March 26, 2016, 12:34:PM »
 I was a strong 5' 7" teenager at the time,the patient a 5' 3" teenager----------but much stronger !! Hard to believe,isn't it ?Being taken by surprise is the unknown mood of a psychotic. They are so strong. It's like dealing with a drunken violent man.
It took 6 staff to calm this small,slight person,plus a syringe full of paraldehyde. The incident was noted,but I didn't take it any further for obvious reasons.

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Re: what do jeremys demands for further tests on the silencer prove.
« Reply #353 on: March 26, 2016, 12:36:PM »
That's a totally ignorant and spurious reply. You suggest that it is an accomplishment to hit someone lying in bed or that the shots to torso arms and legs were 'on target'. Neville had been shot in the head at close range at least twice in the bedroom meaning he was in no condition to dodge bullets.
You obviously know nothing about people having psychotic episodes. Delusions are in the brain and have no physically disabling effect, in fact they become manic [look it up if you don't know what that means].

So someone deluded enough to mistake a a silencer for a feminine hygiene product would have the wherewithal to load a gun she has never seen/used before and orchestrate the murders of 4 people? By the way, I do know something about psychotic episodes and you are right, they are in the brain but side effects from drugs DO have a physical and disabling effect.   
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Re: what do jeremys demands for further tests on the silencer prove.
« Reply #354 on: March 26, 2016, 12:39:PM »




I've seen a psychotic person in action,and they can kill in a matter of seconds from being lucid or deep in thought------quiet and unassuming,to violent at the flick of a switch in their brain. I still have an old scar-tissue which is visible via a CT scan to prove the lasting damage which can be done by the violence to which they're noted for.
I'd been physically thrown onto an iron-framed bed which I was making after having had a " sensible " conversation with such a patient ( psychotic ). I was winded and suffered bruising to my back/ribs and an x-ray showed a cracked rib which had stopped short of puncturing a lung but damaging the pleura between the ribcage. That still shows up today.
If I hadn't have got away,the girl would surely have killed me. Patients like this were kept in locked cells and if you had to go into these cells,you locked the door behind you to save them making a run for it because their strength and energy is something else.
Until anyone has ever been involved with anyone having an " episode " they've no idea whatsoever.

And sons sometimes kill their parents for financial gain - what's your point?
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Re: what do jeremys demands for further tests on the silencer prove.
« Reply #355 on: March 26, 2016, 01:13:PM »
And sons sometimes kill their parents for financial gain - what's your point?






Not in this case they don't. Take your blinkers off providing they're not welded.

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Re: what do jeremys demands for further tests on the silencer prove.
« Reply #356 on: March 26, 2016, 01:26:PM »
Lookout I believe there will be a forensic breakthrough in the case soon
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Re: what do jeremys demands for further tests on the silencer prove.
« Reply #357 on: March 26, 2016, 01:33:PM »
And sons sometimes kill their parents for financial gain - what's your point?

The point is some keep pretending Sheila in a psychotic state would not be capable of firing a gun or washing herself or loading a weapon.

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« Reply #358 on: March 26, 2016, 01:34:PM »
Lookout I believe there will be a forensic breakthrough in the case soon

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Re: what do jeremys demands for further tests on the silencer prove.
« Reply #359 on: March 26, 2016, 01:39:PM »
Lookout I believe there will be a forensic breakthrough in the case soon





I jolly well hope so Jackie. There must be enough in the kitty to at least fund that alone. It's Jeremy who's pushed for this. Would it not be a strange thing to do if you were guilty ? You'd be hoping and praying that nothing would be found. In actual fact,you wouldn't go to the trouble of mentioning it let alone pleading for scientists to go through forensic evidence.