what do jeremys demands for further tests on the silencer prove.

[David1819]

Oh okay, I haven't seen anything suggesting that. 

Allot of things in RWBs august diary entries ends up being in Julies September statements

Caroline denies this even thou its all there for all to read.

[Caroline]

Allot of things in RWBs august diary entries ends up being in Julies September statements

Caroline denies this even thou its all there for all to read.

WHERE in Julie's statements does she mention the wet suit? You are being VERY misleading again David!

[Jane]

Does it heck------at a foot away ? A child could do that.

Lookout, I'm starting to wonder if you, too, are discalculea. Your spacial awareness is zero -I'm relieved you never had to give me an injection. You'd have OD'd me. You have Sheila shooting her mother between the eyes from -I think you quoted the distance between them as being 3 feet when the bed alone was at least 4'6" wide and may have been 6'. It was undoubtedly 6' long. NOW you proclaim there to have been only 1' between shooter and victim. lookout, YOUR NUMBERS DON'T ADD UP but it seems there are no lengths to which you won't go to say that Jeremy is innocent.

[guest2181]

Allot of things in RWBs august diary entries ends up being in Julies September statements

Caroline denies this even thou its all there for all to read.

Stop telling fibs David. 

[mike tesko]

WHERE in Julie's statements does she mention the wet suit? You are being VERY misleading again David!

Hang on a minute...

According to the records, how many witness statements were made Julie Mugfords name, or how many witness statements did Julie Mugford make herself, as compared to to 31 times that DS Jones interviewed her? She know that DS Jones spike to Julie Mugford on over 30 separate occasions, and that she had interviewed under caution...

It is my view, that DS Jones did speak to Julie Mugford, about things mentioned in the RWB diary extracts, amongst other things...

Furthermore, it simply cannot be a coincidence, that on the very same day that RWB goes to see ACC Peter Simpson ( a fellow Freemason), on the 6th September, 1985, that thereabouts, or soon after, Julie Mugford supposedly goes voluntarily (escorted by her best pal) to fess up to DS Stan Jones...

I think there must have been some collusion of sorts between the relatives and Julie Mugford...

[Jane]

That note would have been copied from RWB's rough notes on the wetsuit.

Yeah right!!! RWB believed Jeremy responsible from the start. Julie, for the time, was going along with his innocence. There was NO way there'd have been enough common ground between them, at that point, for Julie to have been made privy to what was in RWB's diary and I can't see her climbing through windows to take a sneaky peek.

[lookout]

WHERE in Julie's statements does she mention the wet suit? You are being VERY misleading again David!

Not her statement,but in her diary ( January ) Probably written after RWB's suggestion.

[Caroline]

Hang on a minute...

According to the records, how many witness statements were made Julie Mugfords name, or how many witness statements did Julie Mugford make herself, as compared to to 31 times that DS Jones interviewed her? She know that DS Jones spike to Julie Mugford on over 30 separate occasions, and that she had interviewed under caution...

It is my view, that DS Jones did speak to Julie Mugford, about things mentioned in the RWB diary extracts, amongst other things...

Furthermore, it simply cannot be a coincidence, that on the very same day that RWB goes to see ACC Peter Simpson ( a fellow Freemason), on the 6th September, 1985, that thereabouts, or soon after, Julie Mugford supposedly goes voluntarily (escorted by her best pal) to fess up to DS Stan Jones...

I think there must have been some collusion of sorts between the relatives and Julie Mugford...

Doesn't matter how many statements she made - she still doesn't mention the wet suit as being part of the crime.

[Caroline]

Not her statement,but in her diary ( January ) Probably written after RWB's suggestion.

I KNOW it's written in the diary - it's just a list of things. SJ most likely asked her about the wet suit after it had been mentioned by RWB - so what?

[lookout]

I KNOW it's written in the diary - it's just a list of things. SJ most likely asked her about the wet suit after it had been mentioned by RWB - so what?

Does it not appear strange to you ? Like a deliberate act of collusion ??

[lookout]

Lookout, I'm starting to wonder if you, too, are discalculea. Your spacial awareness is zero -I'm relieved you never had to give me an injection. You'd have OD'd me. You have Sheila shooting her mother between the eyes from -I think you quoted the distance between them as being 3 feet when the bed alone was at least 4'6" wide and may have been 6'. It was undoubtedly 6' long. NOW you proclaim there to have been only 1' between shooter and victim. lookout, YOUR NUMBERS DON'T ADD UP but it seems there are no lengths to which you won't go to say that Jeremy is innocent.

I don't think you could get any nastier if you tried. What's injections got to do with anything except to belittle me on a forum ? You sad individual !

[David1819]

Stop telling fibs David. 

I am not "Telling Fibs". The resemblance between RWBs diary and JMs statements and JMs "diary" is based on reality and goes to further substantiate the reasons to dismiss Julie as a credible witness.

I don't even know why I bother debating Julie Mugford in the first place. Anyone with a shade of sense trying to argue in favour of the prosecution will know that Julies word is about as useless as Anne Franks drum kit.

[Jane]

I don't think you could get any nastier if you tried. What's injections got to do with anything except to belittle me on a forum ? You sad individual !

Oh xx xxxx xx xxx xxxxx xxxxx!! There was NEVER any intention to belittle you. The suggestion was simply that if you had the sort of spacial awareness you demonstrate here, you could have got measurement wrong. Still, congratulations on avoiding giving an answer to my point. OH yes. One more thing. I wish you a very Happy Easter.

[Caroline]

Does it not appear strange to you ? Like a deliberate act of collusion ??

How is it collusion when she didn't mention anything about the wet suit in her testimony. Clearly Jones mentioned it to her and she noted it down.

[lookout]

Oh xx xxxx xx xxx xxxxx xxxxx!! There was NEVER any intention to belittle you. The suggestion was simply that if you had the sort of spacial awareness you demonstrate here, you could have got measurement wrong. Still, congratulations on avoiding giving an answer to my point. OH yes. One more thing. I wish you a very Happy Easter.

And a Merry Christmas to you too. Nothing wrong with my spatial awareness nor sight either.