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Offline Caroline

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« Reply #285 on: March 24, 2016, 09:14:PM »




Well it doesn't take a marksman to shoot from a foot away really,does it ? Or a markswoman !!

Takes a pretty good shot to hit a moving target and NEVER miss!
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« Reply #286 on: March 24, 2016, 09:15:PM »
Bamber testified he knew how to use the murder weapon.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #287 on: March 24, 2016, 09:17:PM »
Bamber testified he knew how to use the murder weapon.

case closed!  ;D

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« Reply #288 on: March 24, 2016, 09:22:PM »
Takes a pretty good shot to hit a moving target and NEVER miss!





Does it heck------at a foot away ? A child could do that.

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« Reply #289 on: March 24, 2016, 09:24:PM »




Does it heck------at a foot away ? A child could do that.

Nevill wouldn't always have been just a foot away! And a child couldn't have loaded it in the first place.
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« Reply #290 on: March 24, 2016, 09:29:PM »

Some points of Bamber's court testimony:

He said he was experienced with guns. And had no difficulty using the murder weapon.

Sheila had limited experience with guns. 

There were fostering conversations on the night. Sheila was silent and not paying attention.

He denied cycling to WHF to commit the massacre.

He had been unfair in using Julie for emotional support and bringing her to WHF on the massacre morning.

His relationship with June was poor. They would antagonise each other. There was a lack of understanding.

When his phone was answered 'it was dad'. Jeremy started crying.

He said the call to Chelmsford police station lasted 5 minutes.

He said he rang Julie at 3am for 'a friendly ear'.

He drove so slowly to WHF as he did not want to arrive  before the police.

He said he knew how to get in and out of the bathroom window at WHF.

He said he saw Sheila punch the twins. Once.

He robbed the caravan site to show security problems. But admitted he should not have spent the money. He did so out of greed.

He agreed with Mary Mugfords testimony about his poor relationship with June.

He said James Richards and everyone lied about him. Because of the way the media had portrayed him.

He liked the good things in life. And had read the wills which tied him to the farm to inherit.

He should not have left the gun lying around and it would have taken seconds to put away. He had been 'lackadaisical' saying 'I didn't know what was going to happen, did I ?'.

Accused of lying he said 'that is what you have to establish'.

As more pressure was put on, his answers became shorter - don't know, can't pin myself, I can't answer.

It did not enter his head to dial 999.

The relationship with Julie had been in decline since Xmas 84. He had been unfaithful before, which Julie knew about. He ended the relationship in a restaraunt.

He had spent freely after the massacre and drank champagne on the funeral evening.
« Last Edit: March 24, 2016, 09:29:PM by Adam »
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: what do jeremys demands for further tests on the silencer prove.
« Reply #291 on: March 24, 2016, 09:30:PM »
Nevill wouldn't always have been just a foot away! And a child couldn't have loaded it in the first place.





Neville was the only one on the move------and yes,if a child was watching a rifle being loaded,as Sheila was,then it's not difficult to repeat. Except that it would have been difficult to have loaded it to capacity because it got harder after a certain amount of bullets. Hence why there was an empty box of them in the bedroom as they'd have been loaded piecemeal ( one at a time ) in case of the fingernails.

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Re: what do jeremys demands for further tests on the silencer prove.
« Reply #292 on: March 24, 2016, 09:38:PM »
Nevill wouldn't always have been just a foot away! And a child couldn't have loaded it in the first place.

Of course a child could. A gun is a very easy thing to work out.

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« Reply #293 on: March 24, 2016, 09:57:PM »
Of course a child could. A gun is a very easy thing to work out.

That's a matter of opinion but we're not talking about a child, we're talking about a woman supposedly in the middle of a psychotic episode and you still haven't pointed to where Julie mentioned the wet suit?
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Re: what do jeremys demands for further tests on the silencer prove.
« Reply #294 on: March 24, 2016, 10:01:PM »
That's a matter of opinion but we're not talking about a child, we're talking about a woman supposedly in the middle of a psychotic episode and you still haven't pointed to where Julie mentioned the wet suit?
I thought this was the Robert Boutflour thesis..

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« Reply #295 on: March 24, 2016, 10:06:PM »
That's a matter of opinion but we're not talking about a child, we're talking about a woman supposedly in the middle of a psychotic episode and you still haven't pointed to where Julie mentioned the wet suit?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvia_Seegrist

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Re: what do jeremys demands for further tests on the silencer prove.
« Reply #296 on: March 24, 2016, 10:12:PM »
That's a matter of opinion but we're not talking about a child, we're talking about a woman supposedly in the middle of a psychotic episode and you still haven't pointed to where Julie mentioned the wet suit?

Its in her "Diary"  8)


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« Reply #297 on: March 24, 2016, 10:24:PM »
That note would have been copied from RWB's rough notes on the wetsuit.

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« Reply #298 on: March 24, 2016, 10:25:PM »
Its in her "Diary"  8)

That doesn't say that she thought he used it!!  ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #299 on: March 24, 2016, 10:26:PM »
That note would have been copied from RWB's rough notes on the wetsuit.

Eh?  ;D ;D ;D
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