EU Referendum

[lookout]

Age Pension :

Sweden-----£25,000 per year.
Spain------£26,630-max-earnings related.
Germany____£26,366.-earnings related.
France------£15,811-earnings related.
Ireland-----£10,415.

UK___£7,500.

Bottom of the league and 4th worst in the world !! SHAMEFUL !!

Will we be on a par with Europe if we vote to stay in ? NO CHANCE !!

[maggie]

Age Pension :

Sweden-----£25,000 per year.
Spain------£26,630-max-earnings related.
Germany____£26,366.-earnings related.
France------£15,811-earnings related.
Ireland-----£10,415.

UK___£7,500.

Bottom of the league and 4th worst in the world !! SHAMEFUL !!

Will we be on a par with Europe if we vote to stay in ? NO CHANCE !!

I agree it is shameful lookout but it certainly won't go up if we leave, it's nothing to do with the EU.

[lookout]

I agree it is shameful lookout but it certainly won't go up if we leave, it's nothing to do with the EU.

We're still answerable to Brussels though as it's they who call the shots on whatever this country does------or not do.
I note that Jeremy is very emphatic at remaining in the EU  Which is where I differ from him as regards supporting him. Maybe he likes being dictated to ?

[sami]

We're still answerable to Brussels though as it's they who call the shots on whatever this country does------or not do.
I note that Jeremy is very emphatic at remaining in the EU  Which is where I differ from him as regards supporting him. Maybe he likes being dictated to ?

maybe its because eu are against whole life sentences

[Caroline]

We're still answerable to Brussels though as it's they who call the shots on whatever this country does------or not do.
I note that Jeremy is very emphatic at remaining in the EU  Which is where I differ from him as regards supporting him. Maybe he likes being dictated to ?

The EU has nothing to do with how much pensions UK citizens receive. They don't call the shots on everything, there would be no point in having  UK government if that were the case.

[sami]

i think its wise to leave ,and take back control,theres been some scare mongering about defence but we dont need to be part of a gang we are a nuclear power,and no enemy dare attack us cause they now they will be wiped out,MADE IN BRITAIN used to mean alot before now you never see it,our farmers ,our fishermen get told what their must grow and how much fish they can catch.instead of buying products which we have grown ourselves ,we buy cheaper eu products ,killing our industries  DEAD ,since 1066 we have been on our own and coped fine,eu needs us we dont need eu,iam all for helping people but i cant allow my tax money to go to another country so a family thats never lived in britain get  my money cause one member is living here and claiming money for them,lets think of our own ,the countrys not doing well ,we need to spend our money on ourselves,we thank the usa for their help in the war and if they ever need ours we will be happy to oblige,but we cant be doing the usa dirty work,if they have a problem with russia thats they business nothing to do with us,i could go on but will take too long

[maggie]

Just wondered if anybody had any thoughts on the EU Referendum?

I have many thoughts on the result.

Anyone unhappy about EU result can sign a government petition for a second referendum on a point of law. Votes already over 800,000. 
This is why Ireland had to repeat their referendum a few years ago.

[Stephanie]

I have many thoughts on the result.

Anyone unhappy about EU result can sign a government petition for a second referendum on a point of law. Votes already over 800,000. 
This is why Ireland had to repeat their referendum a few years ago.

Any ideas what the point of law is Maggie and where to find the petition?

[sami]

to be fair the 40% odd scottish people that wanted to leave the uk ,should also have invoked a petition

[Stephanie]

Anyone unhappy about EU result can sign a government petition for a second referendum on a point of law. Votes already over 800,000. 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/brexit-petition-for-second-eu-referendum-so-popular-the-government-sites-crashing-a7099996.html

[Stephanie]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/brexit-petition-for-second-eu-referendum-so-popular-the-government-sites-crashing-a7099996.html

Link to petition for anyone interested http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/brexit-petition-for-second-eu-referendum-so-popular-the-government-sites-crashing-a7099996.html

[David1819]

I have many thoughts on the result.

Anyone unhappy about EU result can sign a government petition for a second referendum on a point of law. Votes already over 800,000. 
This is why Ireland had to repeat their referendum a few years ago.

Ireland did not have a referendum on leavening the EU. They had a referendum on the treaty of Lisbon then another when they changed the terms.

You can't just have another referendum because you don't like the way the vote went

[maggie]

Ireland did not have a referendum on leavening the EU. They had a referendum on the treaty of Lisbon then another when they changed the terms.

You can't just have another referendum because you don't like the way the vote went

I know I used the wrong words thank you David.  Do you think I'm stupid David?  I made a mistake I know very well you can't just have another referendum because you don't like the result.  I've been involved in politcs all my adult life.

[David1819]

I know I used the wrong words thank you David.  Do you think I'm stupid David?  I made a mistake I know very well you can't just have another referendum because you don't like the result.  I've been involved in politcs all my adult life.

I wasn't directing that comment at you, I was referring to people in general

[maggie]

I wasn't directing that comment at you, I was referring to people in general

Sorry am just fed up with the situation, wish we could just go again!!  So many people have now realised what their 'protest vote' may have done, between them and all those who want 'Britain to be great again' I am just about referendummed out.