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Offline David1819

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Re: Questions about the bible :
« Reply #315 on: March 07, 2016, 08:23:PM »

I'd say exactly the same of you. You're cherry picking. Jeremy is guilty for no OTHER reason than than his guilt. The most I've done is a very local straw poll in which one out of five people -all of whom had connections to the family- believed Jeremy innocent and mused that it could be a microcosm of a wider viewpoint.

I can quite see why you might not want anyone to look too closely at those pieces of evidence which aren't definitive -I might say I did exactly the same when I thought Jeremy was innocent- and you seem to conveniently forget that I've argued with Adam from both sides.

My objectivity is razor sharp, I don't conclude Jeremy is guilty or innocent because the evidence is not satisfactory hence why the case is controversial to this day.

If I could prove Jeremy is guilty and when I say prove guilty I mean to the standard that no one takes any interest in this case because the uncertainty is effectively gone and his campaign team abandons him etc then that would be great however I cant see that happening and there is 0.01% there is anything hidden waiting to be exposed that will reveal all one way or another.

Too many people are against Jeremy on this forum, and when asked to give a good argument for his guilt they produce no valid answer so I tend argue in his favour for the sake of balance. If you read my conversations with Holly on the red forum you will see that I point out the possibility of Jeremy's guilt to her on multiple occasions, I am no partisan or fanatic the idea of Jeremy being guilty does cross my mind you know  ;D

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Re: Questions about the bible :
« Reply #316 on: March 07, 2016, 08:38:PM »
My objectivity is razor sharp, I don't conclude Jeremy is guilty or innocent because the evidence is not satisfactory hence why the case is controversial to this day.

If I could prove Jeremy is guilty and when I say prove guilty I mean to the standard that no one takes any interest in this case because the uncertainty is effectively gone and his campaign team abandons him etc then that would be great however I cant see that happening and there is 0.01% there is anything hidden waiting to be exposed that will reveal all one way or another.

Too many people are against Jeremy on this forum, and when asked to give a good argument for his guilt they produce no valid answer so I tend argue in his favour for the sake of balance. If you read my conversations with Holly on the red forum you will see that I point out the possibility of Jeremy's guilt to her on multiple occasions, I am no partisan or fanatic

the idea of Jeremy being guilty does cross my mind you know  ;D
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Re: Questions about the bible :
« Reply #317 on: March 07, 2016, 08:48:PM »
My objectivity is razor sharp, I don't conclude Jeremy is guilty or innocent because the evidence is not satisfactory hence why the case is controversial to this day.

If I could prove Jeremy is guilty and when I say prove guilty I mean to the standard that no one takes any interest in this case because the uncertainty is effectively gone and his campaign team abandons him etc then that would be great however I cant see that happening and there is 0.01% there is anything hidden waiting to be exposed that will reveal all one way or another.

Too many people are against Jeremy on this forum, and when asked to give a good argument for his guilt they produce no valid answer so I tend argue in his favour for the sake of balance. If you read my conversations with Holly on the red forum you will see that I point out the possibility of Jeremy's guilt to her on multiple occasions, I am no partisan or fanatic the idea of Jeremy being guilty does cross my mind you know  ;D

It sounds as if you don't care strongly, one way or the other and your arguments, as a result, lack sincerity.

That's a somewhat immovable wall you're banging your head against. You demand definitive proof of guilt but you can't provide definitive proof of innocence.

Would you not expect that people are likely to be against a person they believed guilty of a heinous crime? Many here are way more serious than you, about their beliefs, on which ever side they fall. By flitting from forum to forum for arguments' sake, you reduce it to some kind of joke.

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Re: Questions about the bible :
« Reply #318 on: March 07, 2016, 08:48:PM »
My objectivity is razor sharp, I don't conclude Jeremy is guilty or innocent because the evidence is not satisfactory hence why the case is controversial to this day.

If I could prove Jeremy is guilty and when I say prove guilty I mean to the standard that no one takes any interest in this case because the uncertainty is effectively gone and his campaign team abandons him etc then that would be great however I cant see that happening and there is 0.01% there is anything hidden waiting to be exposed that will reveal all one way or another.

Too many people are against Jeremy on this forum, and when asked to give a good argument for his guilt they produce no valid answer so I tend argue in his favour for the sake of balance. If you read my conversations with Holly on the red forum you will see that I point out the possibility of Jeremy's guilt to her on multiple occasions, I am no partisan or fanatic the idea of Jeremy being guilty does cross my mind you know  ;D

Good for you - but stick to the facts!  ;)
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Re: Questions about the bible :
« Reply #319 on: March 07, 2016, 08:50:PM »
We have both argued the case from both sides but even when I thought him innocent, there were things I wasn't comfortable with. I am not comfortable about the silencer now that I believe he's guilty but regardless of whether there is any forensic evidence - there is too much circumstantial evidence for him to be innocent and Jeremy isn't good at answering difficult questions - an innocent man wouldn't have a problem.

In regards to you messaging Jeremy, In my opinion you questioning him on various if not many details about the case made him feel you were questioning him on a presumption of guilt. And if you cant prove your innocence why would he bother spending time answering you? You clearly asked him difficult questions thus exposing your motive was not to support him

He will have people writing to him allot with covert motives to try and pick at him. Even well meaning supporters tell me they sometimes write to him and get no reply, So either he has no time or he is paranoid about their motives.

You might want to try writing to him again with a different name/address and use a different tone and be patient building rappor, You will have to manipulate Jeremy into thinking you are on his side 100% otherwise he wont bother, guilty or innocent he has better things to do.

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Re: Questions about the bible :
« Reply #320 on: March 07, 2016, 08:55:PM »
.......So either he has no time ............ he has better things to do.

Seems unlikely.  :P

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Re: Questions about the bible :
« Reply #321 on: March 07, 2016, 09:02:PM »
In regards to you messaging Jeremy, In my opinion you questioning him on various if not many details about the case made him feel you were questioning him on a presumption of guilt. And if you cant prove your innocence why would he bother spending time answering you? You clearly asked him difficult questions thus exposing your motive was not to support him

He will have people writing to him allot with covert motives to try and pick at him. Even well meaning supporters tell me they sometimes write to him and get no reply, So either he has no time or he is paranoid about their motives.

You might want to try writing to him again with a different name/address and use a different tone and be patient building rappor, You will have to manipulate Jeremy into thinking you are on his side 100% otherwise he wont bother, guilty or innocent he has better things to do.

Given that you have read NONE of the letters I sent your opinion is as worthy as your claim that June and Sheila read the bible together.

You might want to write to him yourself and apply your own advice. Although I have to say, Jeremy isn't a celebrity and has nothing better to do.
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Re: Questions about the bible :
« Reply #322 on: March 07, 2016, 09:08:PM »
Given that you have read NONE of the letters I sent your opinion is as worthy as your claim that June and Sheila read the bible together.

You might want to write to him yourself and apply your own advice. Although I have to say, Jeremy isn't a celebrity and has nothing better to do.

suit yourself

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Re: Questions about the bible :
« Reply #323 on: March 07, 2016, 09:10:PM »
Seems unlikely.  :P

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Re: Questions about the bible :
« Reply #324 on: March 07, 2016, 09:14:PM »
Jobs to earn money, Jobs to keep privileges etc

Are you really trying to argue that Jeremy has a shortage of time?

Okay then.  :P

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Re: Questions about the bible :
« Reply #325 on: March 07, 2016, 09:14:PM »
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« Reply #326 on: March 07, 2016, 09:20:PM »
Given that you have read NONE of the letters I sent your opinion is as worthy as your claim that June and Sheila read the bible together.

You might want to write to him yourself and apply your own advice. Although I have to say, Jeremy isn't a celebrity and has nothing better to do.

have you put your corospondence on the forum.

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Re: Questions about the bible :
« Reply #327 on: March 07, 2016, 09:40:PM »
have you put your corospondence on the forum.

Why would I do that? I have posted various salient points but I wouldn't post a whole letter.
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Re: Questions about the bible :
« Reply #328 on: March 07, 2016, 10:12:PM »
why put them here. so we can all read them then could judge his faluire to reply much more clearly.

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Re: Questions about the bible :
« Reply #329 on: March 07, 2016, 10:33:PM »
why put them here. so we can all read them then could judge his faluire to reply much more clearly.

You must be joking! Write to him yourself and post your own letters. I have posted the relevant pieces when necessary. Talk about being nosey!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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