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Offline Adam

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Re: Questions about the bible :
« Reply #60 on: January 14, 2016, 08:32:AM »
https://youtu.be/SH48WKZLTtc

The campaign team are suggesting the note inside the bible is a suicide note.

However they do not answer my questions on it.
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Re: Questions about the bible :
« Reply #61 on: January 14, 2016, 08:39:AM »
The police say the bible was left open at pages 656/657. The CT then say this cannot be verified.

They complain about alleged non disclosure, then when things are disclosed say it cannot be verified.
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Re: Questions about the bible :
« Reply #62 on: January 14, 2016, 08:45:AM »
I wonder who was supposed to read to read the alleged suicide note ? She had killed her immediate family, except Bamber.

CC maybe. But why leave a note for him but kill her father ?
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Re: Questions about the bible :
« Reply #63 on: January 14, 2016, 08:53:AM »
"Would Sheila only decide to get the bible after killing four other people"? A prime example of a question whose only answer is the one Adam CHOOSES to apply and given the nature of the beast it'll be the opposite of what anyone else gives.................IF anyone else bothers.

Re the position of the bible. It would carry more weight if the two officers actually SAID what position the bible had previously occupied.

they did I think - about 12" away at waist height .

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Re: Questions about the bible :
« Reply #64 on: January 14, 2016, 08:56:AM »
https://youtu.be/SH48WKZLTtc

The campaign team are suggesting the note inside the bible is a suicide note.

However they do not answer my questions on it.

that is because EP listed suicide note on one of their lists - but it could have been the coded note that has been on the forum loads of times I am sure you have seen it. Also there is a handwritten note seen in the bible but it is not known whose writing it is - it could just be junes bible class notes . So there you are I am being fair - but blame EP for lack of clarity NOT the CT .

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Re: Questions about the bible :
« Reply #65 on: January 14, 2016, 09:18:AM »
that is because EP listed suicide note on one of their lists - but it could have been the coded note that has been on the forum loads of times I am sure you have seen it. Also there is a handwritten note seen in the bible but it is not known whose writing it is - it could just be junes bible class notes . So there you are I am being fair - but blame EP for lack of clarity NOT the CT .

It COULD have been a question of making two and two make five. They found what they'd been conditioned to find-four murders and a suicide- so when the found the "suicide" holding a bible which appeared to contain a handwritten note -possibly because they were as ignorant of the bible as Adam appears to be- they assumed it was a suicide note as opposed to possible references of verses June may have intended to be part of her bible study class. It maybe worth noting that whilst it may have been listed as a suicide note, nothing of it's contents were ever revealed. Nothing was mentioned in the press and it wasn't bought up in court. Surely, a hand written suicide note, by Sheila, would have gone a long way to proving Jeremy was innocent?

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« Reply #66 on: January 14, 2016, 10:01:AM »
that is because EP listed suicide note on one of their lists - but it could have been the coded note that has been on the forum loads of times I am sure you have seen it. Also there is a handwritten note seen in the bible but it is not known whose writing it is - it could just be junes bible class notes . So there you are I am being fair - but blame EP for lack of clarity NOT the CT .

And in the same breath blame the CT for using that lack of clarity for their own propaganda purposes.

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Re: Questions about the bible :
« Reply #67 on: January 14, 2016, 10:04:AM »
I'd like to know how soon before the tragedy did June write her letter,to be opened on her death.

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Re: Questions about the bible :
« Reply #68 on: January 14, 2016, 10:50:AM »
It COULD have been a question of making two and two make five. They found what they'd been conditioned to find-four murders and a suicide- so when the found the "suicide" holding a bible which appeared to contain a handwritten note -possibly because they were as ignorant of the bible as Adam appears to be- they assumed it was a suicide note as opposed to possible references of verses June may have intended to be part of her bible study class. It maybe worth noting that whilst it may have been listed as a suicide note, nothing of it's contents were ever revealed. Nothing was mentioned in the press and it wasn't bought up in court. Surely, a hand written suicide note, by Sheila, would have gone a long way to proving Jeremy was innocent?

Carol Ann Lee was able to find out what was written on the note inside the bible - if she was able to find out, then I am sure it was no great secret. However, to maintain the notion of a suicide note (and I don't believe EP could have been referring to the letters and numbers note that make no sense (looks as though one of the twins wrote it anyway)), it helps to maintain the myth that Sheila killed herself. The note was in June's bible, so must have been written by her - EP wouldn't have known that at the time so wrongly thought it might be a suicide note because it was found next to Sheila.
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Re: Questions about the bible :
« Reply #69 on: January 14, 2016, 10:57:AM »
Carol Ann Lee was able to find out what was written on the note inside the bible - if she was able to find out, then I am sure it was no great secret. However, to maintain the notion of a suicide note (and I don't believe EP could have been referring to the letters and numbers note that make no sense (looks as though one of the twins wrote it anyway)), it helps to maintain the myth that Sheila killed herself. The note was in June's bible, so must have been written by her - EP wouldn't have known that at the time so wrongly thought it might be a suicide note because it was found next to Sheila.
When I first joined the forum the suicide note was accepted as fact.
I agree imo there was no suicide note, a p art from anything it doesn't make any sense that a psychotic and seriously disturbed Sheila would bother. In her head she would surely either believe she had killed hideous 'things' to save herself and boys or she was back in reality and too horrified at the carnage she found she or someone else had done.... just my thoughts.

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Re: Questions about the bible :
« Reply #70 on: January 14, 2016, 12:27:PM »
No I agree with the above - the coded note could just have been written by the boys and the note in the bible by June . However  we don't know that for sure  because there was no description - hence the REMOTE possibility there was one

But in the beginning I think a suicide note if it existed would have been copied and available . Then the police could have resisted the pressure from the family without any question.

Personally I think her diaries would have been more interesting.

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Re: Questions about the bible :
« Reply #71 on: January 14, 2016, 12:35:PM »
No I agree with the above - the coded note could just have been written by the boys and the note in the bible by June . However  we don't know that for sure  because there was no description - hence the REMOTE possibility there was one

But in the beginning I think a suicide note if it existed would have been copied and available . Then the police could have resisted the pressure from the family without any question.

Personally I think her diaries would have been more interesting.

100% agreed  :)
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Re: Questions about the bible :
« Reply #72 on: January 14, 2016, 01:09:PM »
'Clearly seen protruding from the pages of the Bible in more than one photograph is a handwritten note, which overwhelmingly supports the notion of a murder-suicide. It is reasonable to suggest this could be a suicide note from Sheila'.

The OS believes it is a suicide note. However they also say there were 'conversations with Sheila inside WHF'.
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Re: Questions about the bible :
« Reply #73 on: January 14, 2016, 01:14:PM »
https://youtu.be/WOC7xxz_PQE

This is the only thing that has Sheila reading something religious. It certainly wasn't the bible.
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Re: Questions about the bible :
« Reply #74 on: January 14, 2016, 03:54:PM »
This thread has not been as productive as my other threads.Which us a pity as I thank everyone early on for clearing everything up. 

One poster answered some of my questions in red, but did not include requested sources. Another poster who demands primary sources, told me to find the requested sources myself. Although the reason I was asking for the sources is because I have not found any.
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