Questions about the bible :

[Jan]

Source 9:

As a treat I will provide the source.

Bamber did know about June's bible. It's in his police interview transcripts.

? so you are asking questions that you know the answer to?

[Adam]

Source 9:

That a person attempting to frame someone for murder/suicide partly on religious grounds, would put a book on decorating cookies next to the deceased person.

[sami]

Source 8:

It was not Sheila's blood the bible land on. TAC.

adam you will have em up allnight again

[Adam]

Source 10:

The page the bible was at.

[Jan]

Source 10:

That a person attempting to frame someone for murder/suicide partly on religious grounds, would put a book on decorating cookies next to the deceased person.

ahhh did you misunderstand Davids post?

[Adam]

ahhh did you misunderstand Davids post?

David copied and pasted a long poem or whatever it is.

Just need a source that was the page the bible was on.
 

[Adam]

adam you will have em up allnight again

Thanks to everyone in advance for providing the answers and sources.

Obviously all these questions must be comprehensively answered.

[Adam]

David said Sheila read the bible. And no one knows whether she had brought her own bible with her.

You would expect Sheila to bring her own bible. As they are personal things and she was staying at WHF for a long time.

So it was a surprise she used June's bible prior to committing suicide. She had just shot June 7 times.

The only explanation is she didn't bring a bible to WHF as she didn't read one. And that Bamber rather obviously put the bible next to Sheila.

[sami]

David said Sheila read the bible. And no one knows whether she had brought her own bible with her.

You would expect Sheila to bring her own bible. As they are personal things and she was staying at WHF for a long time.

So it was a surprise she used June's bible prior to committing suicide. She had just shot June 7 times.

The only explanation is she didn't bring a bible to WHF as she didn't read one. And that Bamber rather obviously put the bible next to Sheila.

imo sheila didnt even see that bible let alone read it .remember she was in a psychotic fit and in that fit she had time to thumb through the bible and have a good read than it was back to the fit to shoot herself.

[Jan]

David copied and pasted a long poem or whatever it is.

Just need a source that was the page the bible was on.

there are threads in 2011 called "the bible" and the photos of the page it was open at are on there and in the archives. Use the search button.

Interesting about the cleansing referral when you read what ferguson said in court


court, Dr Ferguson said: ‘Sheila had a very strong belief that she had evil in her mind and her adopted mother also had evil in her mind and they both needed the evil to be cleansed… She was… caught up with the idea that the Devil had taken her over and given her the power to direct the Devil’s evil not only on to other people but particularly her twin sons… She had complex ideas about having sex with her twin sons. She thought her sons would seduce her and saw the devil in both of them. In particular, she thought Nicholas was a woman-hater and a potential murderer.’ Merely a matter of days before the shootings, a psychiatric report noted that her illness was centred on her children whom she referred to ‘the Devil’s children.’ Dr Ferguson also wrote in his report that Sheila had expressed suicidal ideation

[David1819]

David copied and pasted a long poem or whatever it is.

Just need a source that was the page the bible was on.

That 'long poem or whatever it was' is the contents of the two pages that were open

[Jan]

imo sheila didnt even see that bible let alone read it .remember she was in a psychotic fit and in that fit she had time to thumb through the bible and have a good read than it was back to the fit to shoot herself.

Most posters have referred to that as a possibility not a fact .It could just be that she was clinically severely depressed and thought everyone would be better off without her and if she could not have her sons no one could . No one knows it is all supposition and assumption. But one thing that Jeremy did not lie about was that she was ill and whatever the truth she should be sympathised with and not be the subject of sarcasm.


 What do you think about Fergusons comments ?

[David1819]

Source 9:

That a person attempting to frame someone for murder/suicide partly on religious grounds, would put a book on decorating cookies next to the deceased person.

I was being sarcastic as I considered your question rather silly and self explanatory

[Jan]

That 'long poem or whatever it was' is the contents of the two pages that were open

I think from his post he may not be familiar with the bible at all ?

[Jane]

there are threads in 2011 called "the bible" and the photos of the page it was open at are on there and in the archives. Use the search button.

Interesting about the cleansing referral when you read what ferguson said in court


court, Dr Ferguson said: ‘Sheila had a very strong belief that she had evil in her mind and her adopted mother also had evil in her mind and they both needed the evil to be cleansed… She was… caught up with the idea that the Devil had taken her over and given her the power to direct the Devil’s evil not only on to other people but particularly her twin sons… She had complex ideas about having sex with her twin sons. She thought her sons would seduce her and saw the devil in both of them. In particular, she thought Nicholas was a woman-hater and a potential murderer.’ Merely a matter of days before the shootings, a psychiatric report noted that her illness was centred on her children whom she referred to ‘the Devil’s children.’ Dr Ferguson also wrote in his report that Sheila had expressed suicidal ideation

Which IS odd because Dr Ferguson stated that whilst, during her first breakdown, her conversations were all about her relationships with her children/.family, during her second breakdown she barely mentioned them. Given that after she left his care for the second time he never saw her again, I have to wonder from where his information came.