The rifle at the upstairs window Conundrum - The Bamber Alibi, revisted...

[mike tesko]

Why had the police to resort to this kind of a deception to support the case for Sheila having killed herself with use of the rifle which police themselves had introduced to her body?

[mike tesko]

Why had the police to resort to this kind of a deception to support the case for Sheila having killed herself with use of the rifle which police themselves had introduced to her body?

The rifle must not have been with the body when confronted by the police, otherwise, why bring the rifle from one or other first floor window, to the body...

[mike tesko]

PS Adams, the Commander of the firearm operation, visited the death scene of Sheila Caffell at around 9 O'clock before leaving the scene altogether, and he does not recollect the gun being present upon her body when he viewed it. Well, where was the rifle at 'that' stage, if 'it' was not on Sheila's body?

[mike tesko]

PS Adams, the Commander of the firearm operation, visited the death scene of Sheila Caffell at around 9 O'clock before leaving the scene altogether, and he does not recollect the gun being present upon her body when he viewed it. Well, where was the rifle at 'that' stage, if 'it' was not on Sheila's body?

Set against these facts, is the truthfulness or otherwise, of the testimony of SOCO's Cook and Bird, about the order key crime scene photographs were taken in? We now know both Cook and Bird told blatent lies about whether the rifle was photographed on her body, as opposed to it being photographed against the bedroom window?

He lied...

He lied...

They all lied, and lied, and lied...

[David1819]

Just to give you more food for thought on your theory mike. Didn't Malcom fletcher make a contradiction in his statements that he tested the murder weapon on the 13th but in another statement he dates receiving this weapon at a much later date? opening the possibility for two rifles

[Steve_uk]

I think a timeline might be helpful here from when Police arrived at the White House,when WPC Jeapes sighted the rifle and when PC Bird started taking photographs.

[Jane]

I think a timeline might be helpful here from when Police arrived at the White House,when WPC Jeapes sighted the rifle and when PC Bird started taking photographs.

Steve, being hopeless with number, I find it frightfully confusing with so many being thrown around and constantly being changed.

[mike tesko]

Just to give you more food for thought on your theory mike. Didn't Malcom fletcher make a contradiction in his statements that he tested the murder weapon on the 13th but in another statement he dates receiving this weapon at a much later date? opening the possibility for two rifles

Yes, Fletcher looked at an 'anshuzr rifle' which he described as being 'a bolt action' type, no mention of it being semi - automatic in design. He did not officially receive the semi - automatic rifle until the 30th August 1985. He performed a cloth pull through test of the rifles barrel on the 12th September 1985, and did not according to his evidence officially test fire the semi - automatic rifle, until the 20th, and 25th September, and the 2nd October 1985 using 27 of the 29 control rounds recovered from the kitchen worktop...

Interestingly enough, markings found on several pieces of different bullets from the batch of crime scene ammunition, were compared against marks on test fired rounds, on the following dates, 12th,  13th, 18th and 19th September 1985, and therefore, there must have been another 'unreported test fire' of the rifle prior to the date of the first official test fire (20th September 1985), and this may have included the two missing rounds from the batch of 29 control rounds spoken about earlier...

[mike tesko]

My take on this, is that there must have been two lots of test firing of the anshuzt rifle, one which I shall refer to as ' the unofficial test fire of the anshuzt rifle', using two of the twenty nine control rounds. A second series of 'official test firings of the anshuzt rifle' took place on and after the 20th September 1985, using the remaining twenty seven rounds of the same batch of control rounds...

[mike tesko]

My take on this, is that there must have been two lots of test firing of the anshuzt rifle, one which I shall refer to as ' the unofficial test fire of the anshuzt rifle', using two of the twenty nine control rounds. A second series of 'official test firings of the anshuzt rifle' took place on and after the 20th September 1985, using the remaining twenty seven rounds of the same batch of control rounds...

The two control rounds used in the 'unofficial test fire of the anshuzt rifle' were used to make comparisons of marks present on some of the batch of crime scene ammunition, on dates, 12th, 13th, 18th and 19th September 1985, and then at least one of these two rounds were used in a bullet substitution process, involving swapping over the original badly fragmented PV/20 round which had shattered into 15 separate pieces, swapped with a whole round recovered during the aforementioned 'unofficial test fire'...

[mike tesko]

Once the 'official test fire of the anshuzt rifle' had got under way from the 20th September 1985, these 'test fired rounds' were used to make 'comparison tests with the remaining bullets, including the substituted PV/20 (whole) round...

[mike tesko]

Ewen Smith, was really excited about 'this discovery' of the 'unofficial test fire of the anshuzt rifle' with control ammunition...

[mike tesko]

He dubbed, the ballistic expert, ' Malcolm Fletcher', a very dodgy character...

[mike tesko]

The truth is this, police brought the anshuzt rifle from one or other upstairs window onto Sheila's body. They are responsible for doing that / this, and much later on once the nature of the investigation seemed to change, police then sought to argue that it had been Jeremy Bamber who had in fact 'put the rifle on Sheila's body', in an effort to fool police into accepting that Sheila had shot herself with that rifle and killed herself. In a nutshell, therefore, the key event at the centre of the case was 'how had the rifle ended up in the possession of Sheila Caffell on the bedroom floor' in order that police could photograph it there as per crime scene photograph No.'s, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31 and 32?

 Added to this, has to be 'the approach taken by the police at different stages of the investigation". For examle, we know that originally the police investigation, had a crime reference No. Of 'SC/886/85', and that police were more than happy to proceed upon the basis that what they were dealing with was a case of ' four murders, and a suicide', where they believed that ' Sheila had shot and killed the other four victims, then shot and killed herself'. A central plank of the evidence relied upon at 'that' time, in support of this, had been the existence of 8 consecutively taken crime scene photographs (26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32 and 33) which show Sheila in possession of 'the rifle'...

However, as everyone knows the nature of the investigation changed at around the 6th / 7th September 1985, (given a different crime reference No. of SC/786/85) with (a) the coming forward of 'Bambers girlfriend' Julie Mugford, and (b) 'pressure exerted on police by the relatives', namely by Robert Boutflour, Ann Eaton, David Boutflour and Anthony Pargeter, which caused 'it' to 'change' into ' a five murders, investigation'. At 'this' time, the circumstances of how 'the rifle had found its way onto Sheila Caffells body' before 'it' was photographed there remained unchanged. It 'had' still been the police who 'had' brought the rifle from one or other of the upstairs windows, to the body', and 'then' and 'only then' had 'taken the only photographs in existence' which ' show Sheila Caffells body in possession of the anshuzt rifle'...

[mike tesko]

The person, or the people responsible for ' introducing the anshuzt rifle onto Sheila Caffells body' in time for PC Bird to photograph 'it' there, in sequential order, as per crime scene photograph No.'s 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32 and 33, remains unaltered, no matter which investigation was ' up and running', or not...