Both supporters and guilters agree Neville was found slumped with his head just above a coal scuttle.
However some supporters try to say there was no kitchen fight and Neville just collapsed upon arriving in the kitchen.
However it is impossible to hit Nevilles face in this position and give him black eyes, cheek bruisers and a broken nose. And impossible to give him arm and wrist bruises. And pointless doing it if he was dead.
So there was a massive kitchen fight with Neville getting brutally beaten. And it was not the raid team who smashed and knocked things over. It occured during the fight.
But how did Sheila remain unmarked ?