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ANTHONY PARGETER
« on: December 13, 2015, 05:33:PM »
Can anyone explain to me why AP ended up with about half of the Bamber fortune?
At one time he said that he USUALLY kept his .22 at WHF, saying that he removed the bolt.
He then left farming, and I believe retired to Spain.
He made statements that Jeremy was a crackshot,even though Jeremy was scared of guns. In fact I think it was AP who gave Jeremy a air rifle.
All the family knew how to access WHF when apparently locked up.
The Eatons, and AP were indebted to Neville to some extent. Neville was very successful as a farmer. and very shrewd.
Jeremy was soon to receive a substantial amount from granny Speakman who was close to death,the family poisoned her mind to exclude Jeremy from her will. Who got the money?
Jeremy had to defend himself from the family, and Mugford [who should have been prosecuted as an acsessery.
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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2015, 06:33:PM »
AP took the family to court for fleecing him out of his share of the inheritance. Then he sued a newspaper for libel so that would have helped go towards his nightclub in Ibiza. The paper had printed that his rifle had been used in the killings when we all know that it wasn't on the premises.Was it ?
Though if he'd taken it home with him,what would have been the point of saying he'd " removed the bolt " if the damn thing wasn't there in the first place ?

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Re: ANTHONY PARGETER
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2015, 06:54:PM »
Can anyone explain to me why AP ended up with about half of the Bamber fortune?
At one time he said that he USUALLY kept his .22 at WHF, saying that he removed the bolt.
He then left farming, and I believe retired to Spain.
He made statements that Jeremy was a crackshot,even though Jeremy was scared of guns. In fact I think it was AP who gave Jeremy a air rifle.
All the family knew how to access WHF when apparently locked up.
The Eatons, and AP were indebted to Neville to some extent. Neville was very successful as a farmer. and very shrewd.
Jeremy was soon to receive a substantial amount from granny Speakman who was close to death,the family poisoned her mind to exclude Jeremy from her will. Who got the money?
Jeremy had to defend himself from the family, and Mugford [who should have been prosecuted as an acsessery.
Yes I had wondered about this myself and after checking a couple of the books written on the White House Farm murders have come up with this:

Nevill had two sisters, (who as it happened both predeceased him but I digress). They were Audrey Bamber, who married Allied Mosquito ace Reginald Pargeter, and Diana, who married retired air commodore Ernest Leslie Howard-Williams. Anthony and Jackie were the children of Audrey and therefore Nevill's nephew and niece. Diana died childless.

As far as June was concerned she had an elder sister Pamela, and their parents were Leslie and Mabel Speakman(nee Bunting), both wealthy Essex landowners. As things stood before the murders Nevill had left his estate to Jeremy on condition that he was still farming at the time of his death. If June predeceased him then his estate would be split between Jeremy and Sheila, with an opportunity for Jeremy to buy Sheila out of the Farm. June's will gave Sheila the freehold ownership of the caravan site with Jeremy having shares in it, but the residue would pass to Jeremy when he reached 25 years of age.

Of course what neither Nevill nor June could have envisaged was not only the death of both of them on the same morning but also the death of Sheila and the twins on the same day(there was a rumour that June was going to change her will in favour of the Church, then the twins but at the time of death this plan had not been followed through with). So legally speaking the order of seniority kicked in (ngb1066 and anglolawyer I'm sure will correct me here if I have strayed) and because June was older than her husband by a few days it was deemed that her wishes took precedence. Had Jeremy walked free from court he would therefore have inherited the combined estate of his parents, worth £436,000 in 1985 and well over £1.5 million today.

Here is where Anthony Pargeter comes in. As things stood pre-murders he was legally entitled to nothing(hence his remark from his villa in Ibiza about inheriting by default), but because Pamela Boutflour was now June's next of kin she stood to inherit the lot. I think the Boutflours must have taken legal advice because ultimately Pamela signed over Nevill's estate to Anthony and Jackie(possibly to avoid years of legal wrangling) but kept June's, which is why Anthony came to inherit from his uncle's estate.
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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2015, 07:05:PM »
Somebody made sure that Jeremy didn't reach 25 or his inheritance------one way or the other.

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« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2015, 07:08:PM »
Of course there is no guarantee that one inherits directly from grandparents, as Mabel Speakman's estate was willed to her daughters Pamela and June. Had Mabel Speakman's will stood, her daughter June died and Jeremy not have been convicted of five gruesome murders there may have been a possibility in law that Jeremy had a claim to half his grandmother's estate.

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« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2015, 09:14:PM »
Neville wouldn't have allowed AP to have taken his rifle home when it was licensed to stay at WHF. The fact that AP said he took the bolt was to cover himself in that the rifle couldn't operate without it,but my guess is that he was lying in case he was implicated.
That rifle was as easy to get hold of as the one which had been left on the settle,as it was kept in the downstairs toilet,complete with silencer.
AP had fluffed the questioning of the rifle's whereabouts right from the start.

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« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2015, 09:18:PM »
Neville wouldn't have allowed AP to have taken his rifle home when it was licensed to stay at WHF. The fact that AP said he took the bolt was to cover himself in that the rifle couldn't operate without it,but my guess is that he was lying in case he was implicated.
That rifle was as easy to get hold of as the one which had been left on the settle,as it was kept in the downstairs toilet,complete with silencer.
AP had fluffed the questioning of the rifle's whereabouts right from the start.
I think I read somewhere that AP's rifle had been moved into the den from its original place of downstairs toilet. Was the den in the same area as Nevill's office, which had been recently installed?

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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2015, 09:51:PM »
he looked bloody shifty in the recent interviews he gave.

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« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2015, 10:00:PM »
he looked bloody shifty in the recent interviews he gave.
I'm looking for some clip and it's either adobe or my laptop but they're not playing. http://www.itnsource.com/en/searchresults/

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Re: ANTHONY PARGETER
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2015, 11:05:PM »
I'm looking for some clip and it's either adobe or my laptop but they're not playing. http://www.itnsource.com/en/searchresults/

try using a different browser

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Re: ANTHONY PARGETER
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2015, 11:54:PM »
Can anyone explain to me why AP ended up with about half of the Bamber fortune? Because he was Nevill's nephew and part of the family. When Jeremy was convicted obviously it was divided between the family of which he was part
At one time he said that he USUALLY kept his .22 at WHF, saying that he removed the bolt. And? He removed his rifle weeks before the murders because he thought it had been tampered with.
He then left farming, and I believe retired to Spain. That's not a crime and as he inherited some money, why shouldn't he?
He made statements that Jeremy was a crackshot,even though Jeremy was scared of guns. In fact I think it was AP who gave Jeremy a air rifle. Jeremy has never said he was scared of guns and his schoold also said he was a good shot!
All the family knew how to access WHF when apparently locked up. Says who?
The Eatons, and AP were indebted to Neville to some extent. Neville was very successful as a farmer. and very shrewd. ??
Jeremy was soon to receive a substantial amount from granny Speakman who was close to death,the family poisoned her mind to exclude Jeremy from her will. Who got the money? Jeremy would only inherit 'something; after his parents were dead - this point is like the chicken and the egg!
Jeremy had to defend himself from the family, and Mugford [who should have been prosecuted as an acsessery. Not if he's guilty
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Re: ANTHONY PARGETER
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2015, 09:50:AM »
he looked bloody shifty in the recent interviews he gave.






Because he was uneasy that's why.

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« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2015, 05:32:PM »
hasnt got any really reason to be i means its not the first time hes talked to the press.

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« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2015, 06:02:PM »
There's an interesting little story about AP's step-brother,Roland ( Roly ) on Bambertweets. I hadn't realised that Neville gave him the boot from  working on the farm,for smoking cannabis. This was the young man who'd stayed at WHF when June tried to wean him off it ?
There's also a snippet on Jakie,who was AP's blood sister. Interestingly that she'd stated that there was jealousy abound after saying that she'd been closer to Neville than his children were.

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« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2015, 06:06:PM »
maybe thats just the natraul he looked rather shifty to me.