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Offline lookout

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Re: Breakdown of the forensic evidence:
« Reply #45 on: December 06, 2015, 07:48:PM »
Aga found scratched OVER a month from the murders ? But not during photographs of the crime scene as it happened ?

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Re: Breakdown of the forensic evidence:
« Reply #46 on: December 06, 2015, 07:50:PM »
I don't think they did, but Robert Boutflour had the same blood group as Sheila and Peter Eaton was an expert on guns.

Why did you say the silencer was 'manufactured evidence' in post 39 ?
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Re: Breakdown of the forensic evidence:
« Reply #47 on: December 06, 2015, 07:56:PM »
The silencer was not manufactured evidence. It was impossible for the relatives to do this.

They supplied guns, had their own models of the exact type of silencer. and most of all financial motive.

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Re: Breakdown of the forensic evidence:
« Reply #48 on: December 06, 2015, 07:59:PM »
Found one month or so after the murders ?? Who's kidding who ?


According to CAL. August 12th.

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Re: Breakdown of the forensic evidence:
« Reply #49 on: December 06, 2015, 08:03:PM »

According to CAL. August 12th.





Then into September before it was reported to EP as " having been found ?" That's a month is it not ?

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Re: Breakdown of the forensic evidence:
« Reply #50 on: December 06, 2015, 08:08:PM »
While AP was busy phoning EP about the phantom scratches on Jeremy's hands,he was hiding the fact that he " didn't know where his own rifle was ". ::) What was HE trying to justify ? Those who tell tales like that are invariably hiding something themselves in order to cover-up their own shortcomings. People like that get on my nerves,always first in the queue to shout the odds.

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Re: Breakdown of the forensic evidence:
« Reply #51 on: December 06, 2015, 08:08:PM »
Julie was not some tart Jeremy picked up on a bar stool in the Frog and Beans. They had been going out for eighteen months and slept in the honeymoon suite of a top London hotel.

Totally irrelevant.

I don't think Jeremy had met any woman quite like her,

That's speculation on your part, the releationship they had has no bearing on the forensic evidence.

As for the telephone call, Nevill is unlikely to call the very person he thinks is planning a shooting accident with himself the recipient, yet even he baulked at believing the son he had adopted would do away with them all.

Neville never said Jeremy was planning to kill him. Barbara Wilson some 27 years after the event decided to claim Neville said "I must never turn my back on that boy" Hearsay evidence after 27 years from some old lady is as reliable as a plumbers quote.

If the silencer was manufactured evidence this does not in itself render Jeremy innocent, merely that the relatives were desperate to be taken seriously by law enforcement and concocted their own scheme to sex up the evidence,shocking as this course of action may have been.

Of course it does not prove him innocent. However that would cast serious doubt on his guilt. I have never claimed Jeremy is innocent my position on the matter is that there is reasonable doubt, and if there is proof the silencer was manufacture that would create serious doubt.




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Re: Breakdown of the forensic evidence:
« Reply #52 on: December 06, 2015, 08:09:PM »




Then into September before it was reported to EP as " having been found ?" That's a month is it not ?


According to CAL it was transported to the lab the following day where Cook watched Howard place it on clean blotting paper.

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Re: Breakdown of the forensic evidence:
« Reply #53 on: December 06, 2015, 08:14:PM »
Totally irrelevant.

That's speculation on your part, the releationship they had has no bearing on the forensic evidence.

Neville never said Jeremy was planning to kill him. Barbara Wilson some 27 years after the event decided to claim Neville said "I must never turn my back on that boy" Hearsay evidence after 27 years from some old lady is as reliable as a plumbers quote.

Of course it does not prove him innocent. However that would cast serious doubt on his guilt. I have never claimed Jeremy is innocent my position on the matter is that there is reasonable doubt, and if there is proof the silencer was manufacture that would create serious doubt.

My neighbour, who was Nevill's best friend, also claims to have been told it by Nevill.

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Re: Breakdown of the forensic evidence:
« Reply #54 on: December 06, 2015, 08:15:PM »
There is no evidence the silencer was manufactured. Just optimistic suggestions.
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Re: Breakdown of the forensic evidence:
« Reply #55 on: December 06, 2015, 08:16:PM »

According to CAL it was transported to the lab the following day where Cook watched Howard place it on clean blotting paper.






Strange how stories differ as one of EP had " taken his time " in collecting it from DB,so it's been said too. By the time it arrived at the lab.it was contaminated to the hilt. Was this also the one used as a paperweight in one of the PC's office's ? Or was that one of the 5 that were in play ??

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Re: Breakdown of the forensic evidence:
« Reply #56 on: December 06, 2015, 08:16:PM »
Totally irrelevant.

That's speculation on your part, the releationship they had has no bearing on the forensic evidence.

Neville never said Jeremy was planning to kill him. Barbara Wilson some 27 years after the event decided to claim Neville said "I must never turn my back on that boy" Hearsay evidence after 27 years from some old lady is as reliable as a plumbers quote.

Of course it does not prove him innocent. However that would cast serious doubt on his guilt. I have never claimed Jeremy is innocent my position on the matter is that there is reasonable doubt, and if there is proof the silencer was manufacture that would create serious doubt.
Julie is a highly regarded employee in education in Canada and has worked her way up to almost the top in that domain. I would expect that she has done a welter of charity work in what free time she had after bringing up a family and looking after a husband. I think after all this time she is entitled to have her word respected, even if admittedly this is no consolation to Colin as he faces the thirtieth Christmas without his sons.

Barbara Wilson's relationship with Nevill was more like father and daughter, and she too realized retrospectively the concealed evil about Jeremy's person. As you are fond of quoting Doctor Vanezis let me embellish his quote: Jeremy was a nutter, is a nutter and should remain confined for the rest of his natural life, whether in Bastoy or Monster Mansions.

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Re: Breakdown of the forensic evidence:
« Reply #57 on: December 06, 2015, 08:18:PM »
Why did you say the silencer was 'manufactured evidence' in post 39 ?
The relatives were handed the keys to the White House and had the opportunity to put it there. Of course I don't know whether it was manufactured or not, just that there is a possibility that it was.

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Re: Breakdown of the forensic evidence:
« Reply #58 on: December 06, 2015, 08:20:PM »





Strange how stories differ as one of EP had " taken his time " in collecting it from DB,so it's been said too. By the time it arrived at the lab.it was contaminated to the hilt. Was this also the one used as a paperweight in one of the PC's office's ? Or was that one of the 5 that were in play ??







Come to think of it,what about the one which was picked up from the Eatons by S.Jones who threw it into the boot of his car and tootled off after necking half the bottle of whisky to which the Eatons appeared to have been miffed about.?

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Re: Breakdown of the forensic evidence:
« Reply #59 on: December 06, 2015, 08:21:PM »





Strange how stories differ as one of EP had " taken his time " in collecting it from DB,so it's been said too. By the time it arrived at the lab.it was contaminated to the hilt. Was this also the one used as a paperweight in one of the PC's office's ? Or was that one of the 5 that were in play ??

"Jones placed it IN his desk.................." I'm of the opinion that 5 silencers are 4 rumours too many.