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Why Jeremy Took Nevill's call so SERIOUSLY??
« on: October 30, 2015, 01:38:PM »
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"And so the cycle went on that is until we got back to the van. From then on we called each other ‘Matey’ which fairly quickly was shortened to ‘Mate’. Right up to the 6th August 1985 and my going home leaving dad to collect the last trailer of rape seed from the combine at 10:00pm and leave it for me to tip and process in the morning. My last words to dad when I left that evening were, “Thanks Mate, I’ll see you in the morning.” I said a “Good night” to mum and Sheila and off I went.

In a way, looking back now, I can see why dad’s call to me prompted my phone call to the police at 03:36am. The reason why I took his telephone call so seriously. I have always felt that it was because I’d tried to ring him back to find out more information and my getting the engaged signal each time I did so. Not being able to call dad back to speak to him may have been part of it, but subconsciously I’d have known it was serious due to him not using the term “Matey” during our short conversation.

Obviously this is not a point to be taken to the Appeal Court, it would mean nothing to them, but to dad and I our 'in' joke was important to both of us on so many levels. In order for me to clear all of our names, I’ve had to try to understand everything, including my own actions and motivations."
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Since WHEN did he take the call seriously? He didn't call 999 and it took him 26 mins to call the police and ONLY after calling Julie first. And where did this 'matey' thing come from, this is the first time he's mentioned it and certainly the first time in relation to the phone call. The smell of BS weighs heavily!!

The first paragraph (I feel) is really telling, he's trying to convince people that he left his dad on really good terms and yet BW recognised that Nevill wasn't in the best of moods. Personally, I think it was because Jeremy left his father to finish a job he should have done and Nevill wasn't happy. He made a BIG thing of leaving the farm that day, making sure Len Foakes saw him leave and was aware that Nevill was bringing back the rape seed - there is something about the final interaction between Jeremy and Nevill that just doesn't ring true and I feel there is more to it. I don't believe that Nevill was happy with Jeremy when he left that night.
 

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Re: Why Jeremy Took Nevill's call so SERIOUSLY??
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2015, 02:08:PM »
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"And so the cycle went on that is until we got back to the van. From then on we called each other ‘Matey’ which fairly quickly was shortened to ‘Mate’. Right up to the 6th August 1985 and my going home leaving dad to collect the last trailer of rape seed from the combine at 10:00pm and leave it for me to tip and process in the morning. My last words to dad when I left that evening were, “Thanks Mate, I’ll see you in the morning.” I said a “Good night” to mum and Sheila and off I went.

In a way, looking back now, I can see why dad’s call to me prompted my phone call to the police at 03:36am. The reason why I took his telephone call so seriously. I have always felt that it was because I’d tried to ring him back to find out more information and my getting the engaged signal each time I did so. Not being able to call dad back to speak to him may have been part of it, but subconsciously I’d have known it was serious due to him not using the term “Matey” during our short conversation.

Obviously this is not a point to be taken to the Appeal Court, it would mean nothing to them, but to dad and I our 'in' joke was important to both of us on so many levels. In order for me to clear all of our names, I’ve had to try to understand everything, including my own actions and motivations."
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Since WHEN did he take the call seriously? He didn't call 999 and it took him 26 mins to call the police and ONLY after calling Julie first. And where did this 'matey' thing come from, this is the first time he's mentioned it and certainly the first time in relation to the phone call. The smell of BS weighs heavily!!

The first paragraph (I feel) is really telling, he's trying to convince people that he left his dad on really good terms and yet BW recognised that Nevill wasn't in the best of moods. Personally, I think it was because Jeremy left his father to finish a job he should have done and Nevill wasn't happy. He made a BIG thing of leaving the farm that day, making sure Len Foakes saw him leave and was aware that Nevill was bringing back the rape seed - there is something about the final interaction between Jeremy and Nevill that just doesn't ring true and I feel there is more to it. I don't believe that Nevill was happy with Jeremy when he left that night.
The stress of overwork can be a killer: Jeremy had had enough by 24,Prince Harry gave up the more challenging job of helicopter pilot at 30 and Nevill at 61 would surely be feeling the strain. The most successful long-livers are those who can delegate tasks to their subordinates but I doubt that this was the case in this father and son relationship. Didn't Nevill ask why Barbara had not been that day when it was her day off anyway? With Sheila and the twins present that week there's the quandary of extra work falling on everyone and the obligation to be pleasant in keeping up appearances,yet with many of the characters all on separate trajectories.

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Re: Why Jeremy Took Nevill's call so SERIOUSLY??
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2015, 02:27:PM »

Since WHEN did he take the call seriously? He didn't call 999 and it took him 26 mins to call the police and ONLY after calling Julie first. And where did this 'matey' thing come from, this is the first time he's mentioned it and certainly the first time in relation to the phone call. The smell of BS weighs heavily!!

The first paragraph (I feel) is really telling, he's trying to convince people that he left his dad on really good terms and yet BW recognised that Nevill wasn't in the best of moods. Personally, I think it was because Jeremy left his father to finish a job he should have done and Nevill wasn't happy. He made a BIG thing of leaving the farm that day, making sure Len Foakes saw him leave and was aware that Nevill was bringing back the rape seed - there is something about the final interaction between Jeremy and Nevill that just doesn't ring true and I feel there is more to it. I don't believe that Nevill was happy with Jeremy when he left that night.

This just shows how much of a liar he truly is.  At trial he admitted he didn't call police immediately.  He said that at first he was not worried and that only as time went by and he thought about it more did he realize something was wrong and thus that he should call police. 

Mind you at trial he maintained he called prior to 3:26 not at 3:36 which only makes the gap even larger so is a stupid lie that is inconsistent with his claim he was worried right away.

He said the 3:36 because the foolish supporters he has managed to convince regarding Nevill making a call.  The same foolish supporters are more than willing to overlook that he called Julie first and lied about calling police first, overlook him looking up numbers instead of calling 999 (which indicates no sense of urgency) and also overlook the gap in time between when Nevill allegedly called and him calling police.

His supporters are so biased he feels free to make up any BS without fear and they do exactly what he expects they will.
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Re: Why Jeremy Took Nevill's call so SERIOUSLY??
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2015, 02:58:PM »
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"And so the cycle went on that is until we got back to the van. From then on we called each other ‘Matey’ which fairly quickly was shortened to ‘Mate’. Right up to the 6th August 1985 and my going home leaving dad to collect the last trailer of rape seed from the combine at 10:00pm and leave it for me to tip and process in the morning. My last words to dad when I left that evening were, “Thanks Mate, I’ll see you in the morning.” I said a “Good night” to mum and Sheila and off I went.

In a way, looking back now, I can see why dad’s call to me prompted my phone call to the police at 03:36am. The reason why I took his telephone call so seriously. I have always felt that it was because I’d tried to ring him back to find out more information and my getting the engaged signal each time I did so. Not being able to call dad back to speak to him may have been part of it, but subconsciously I’d have known it was serious due to him not using the term “Matey” during our short conversation.

Obviously this is not a point to be taken to the Appeal Court, it would mean nothing to them, but to dad and I our 'in' joke was important to both of us on so many levels. In order for me to clear all of our names, I’ve had to try to understand everything, including my own actions and motivations."
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Since WHEN did he take the call seriously? He didn't call 999 and it took him 26 mins to call the police and ONLY after calling Julie first. And where did this 'matey' thing come from, this is the first time he's mentioned it and certainly the first time in relation to the phone call. The smell of BS weighs heavily!!

The first paragraph (I feel) is really telling, he's trying to convince people that he left his dad on really good terms and yet BW recognised that Nevill wasn't in the best of moods. Personally, I think it was because Jeremy left his father to finish a job he should have done and Nevill wasn't happy. He made a BIG thing of leaving the farm that day, making sure Len Foakes saw him leave and was aware that Nevill was bringing back the rape seed - there is something about the final interaction between Jeremy and Nevill that just doesn't ring true and I feel there is more to it. I don't believe that Nevill was happy with Jeremy when he left that night.

It appears to me that JB has been told about some of the concerns posters have here regarding things like - the phone call, the timing of the phone call, the rapeseed etc...

It appears he's written his blog in response to the above imo.
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Re: Why Jeremy Took Nevill's call so SERIOUSLY??
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2015, 03:08:PM »

His supporters are so biased he feels free to make up any BS without fear and they do exactly what he expects they will.

Its the other way round. He is at the mercy of what his supporters do.

Ever since Mike decided to go off on his own theories Jeremy has been reluctant or too paranoid to share information with anyone except his legal team.

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Re: Why Jeremy Took Nevill's call so SERIOUSLY??
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2015, 03:27:PM »
Its the other way round. He is at the mercy of what his supporters do.

Ever since Mike decided to go off on his own theories Jeremy has been reluctant or too paranoid to share information with anyone except his legal team.
Mike is doing a better job than any "legal team"..

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Re: Why Jeremy Took Nevill's call so SERIOUSLY??
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2015, 03:46:PM »
Mike is doing a better job than any "legal team"..

I wonder why it's taken him all of 30 years to reveal that the "in joke" between him and his father was that they referred to each other as "Matey"?

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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2015, 03:55:PM »
What a pile of rubbish. In the past Jeremy has said his Dad sounded "terrified" and "really scared" that should be reason enough why he took the call seriously.

But he didn't take the call seriously.

All that blog is trying to do is plug the holes in the story he knows exist, those that want to buy into that, will buy into that.

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Re: Why Jeremy Took Nevill's call so SERIOUSLY??
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2015, 04:04:PM »
What a pile of rubbish. In the past Jeremy has said his Dad sounded "terrified" and "really scared" that should be reason enough why he took the call seriously.

But he didn't take the call seriously.

All that blog is trying to do is plug the holes in the story he knows exist, those that want to buy into that, will buy into that.
His "legal team" have evidently tried to induce him to recall anecdotes from his long long-lost idyllic bucolic childhood in an effort to humanize the individual and palliate the crime of slaughtering five,yet in the endeavour of embellishment they are doomed to failure as they impugn the bald facts of the case and aggravate an already hopeless cause..

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Re: Why Jeremy Took Nevill's call so SERIOUSLY??
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2015, 04:05:PM »
It appears to me that JB has been told about some of the concerns posters have here regarding things like - the phone call, the timing of the phone call, the rapeseed etc...

It appears he's written his blog in response to the above imo.

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Re: Why Jeremy Took Nevill's call so SERIOUSLY??
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2015, 04:08:PM »
His "legal team" have evidently tried to induce him to recall anecdotes from his long long-lost idyllic bucolic childhood in an effort to humanize the individual and palliate the crime of slaughtering five,yet in the endeavour of embellishment they are doomed to failure as they impugn the bald facts of the case and aggravate an already hopeless cause..

I agree, the anecdotes just add salt to the wounds! Also the notion of him winning his freedom is somehow 'clearing his families name'? I don't get that - it just leaves a nasty taste!!
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« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2015, 04:12:PM »
His "legal team" have evidently tried to induce him to recall anecdotes from his long long-lost idyllic bucolic childhood in an effort to humanize the individual and palliate the crime of slaughtering five,yet in the endeavour of embellishment they are doomed to failure as they impugn the bald facts of the case and aggravate an already hopeless cause..

I agree that is happening here.  He's being advised to counter all the negative press that has surrounded his case recently, ironically that negative press is caused by his own campaign team.


I agree, the anecdotes just add salt to the wounds! Also the notion of him winning his freedom is somehow 'clearing his families name'? I don't get that - it just leaves a nasty taste!!

Yeah, it does doesn't it. This blog about how he took the call seriously, when he didn't and the blog about wanting to correct the lies about his family - well I'm sorry but the only people I have seen post lies about his family are supporters that he is in contact with, dodgy lot!

 

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Re: Why Jeremy Took Nevill's call so SERIOUSLY??
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2015, 04:22:PM »
I wonder why it's taken him all of 30 years to reveal that the "in joke" between him and his father was that they referred to each other as "Matey"?






Because it's not as important a factor when 5 people had been murdered. You tend not to remember the " niceties " in life when that's hanging over you.

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Re: Why Jeremy Took Nevill's call so SERIOUSLY??
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2015, 04:24:PM »
Mate,Matey has no relevance at all. It's more an afterthought when looking back over the years,otherwise it's of no importance.

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« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2015, 04:31:PM »
Mate,Matey has no relevance at all. It's more an afterthought when looking back over the years,otherwise it's of no importance.

he has just MADE it relevant because now he's saying that because his father didn't use this nickname - he KNEW the incident must have been SERIOUS. You tend not to think of the niceties? Really? Because Jeremy is saying that he DID think of it - it was the REASON he knew things were SERIOUS.  ;) ;D ;D
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