Mystery of the presence of human blood both ends of the silencer, 13th August...

[John]

Another problem, the two lab' testers were hand swabbed immediately after loading 18 rounds, into the magazine of the anshuzt rifle, whereas, Sheila herself would have been involved in much more additional activities between the loading of 14 /18 rounds at the height of the shootings, producing significant opportunity for Sheila to wipe or transfer lead particles onto things she touched, between the time of the last load of additional Bullets until her death. Nobody knows the length of time which elapsed before the need to reload the rifle occurred? Nobody knows for a certainty, whether or not at the time of the first reload of the rifle, that a further 10 rounds, or less had been loaded into the rifles magazine, followed by another 4 /8? In any event, if I am right that a total of 5 rounds of police ammunition had been fired upon entry into the kitchen, shootings which are subject of an 'Officers Report', then the minimum number of additional rounds required to be loaded into the rifles ammunition, was 10...

Is it any wonder then, that lead deposit levels were much higher as found on the hand swabs taken from the two lab' testers who handled and loaded almost twice as many rounds, that Sheila technically had?

Your continued allegation that the police fired any shots is unsupported by any evidence but hey ho...what's new!

[mike tesko]

Why would an officer involved in the raid, have to produce an 'OFFICERS REPORT', about the shooting incident in the kitchen, if police did not fire any shots. Why is there only 10 pages of PS Woodcocks 13 page witness statement, and why are the page 5 contents of that 10 page statement, typed out by a completely different typewriter than the rest of the 10 pages? And, why does this added / retyped page 5, cover the entry into the main kitchen, which elsewhere (logs), it specifically refers to (7.37am), the body of one dead male, and the body of one dead female, (7.38am), one dead male, one dead female, (7.42am) can someone contact the police surgeon and Coroners officer regarding two bodies, (7.45am) come into the office, because police are dealing with an incident at whf, involving a murder, and a suicide, (8.10am) a further three BODIES found upstairs, five dead in total...

Essex police didn't go to the trouble of replacing (PV/20) one of the two Bullets used to kill Sheila, and introduce four bullet cases into the bedroom scenario, and allow a moderator to become contaminated with Sheila's blood, and paint from the kitchen aga for nothing. Of course the raid team fired off shots in the main kitchen, everything points to that having happened. WPC Jeapes saw the rifle leaning against the bedroom window at 7.15am, prior to the raid team even setting one foot into the farmhouse - how can Sheila have already been dead in that bedroom by that stage, with that rifle at the window, on top of her body, at one and the same time? Before you go down the road of trying to suggest Jeapes didn't see that rifle at that window, let me halt you in your tracks, because no other rifle was found leaning against any other window, except the one at the main bedroom window. Jeapes was covering the corner of white / red when she saw the rifle leaning against the window. This gave her the perfect angle with which to see the rifle in question which was leaning against the main bedroom window at 7.15am, not on top of Sheila's body, laid out on the floor at the same time in the same bedroom. Jeapes was a qualified firearms instructor with Essex police, she knew what she saw, and it was a rifle that she saw, a rifle which was photographed in the same position three hours later, so how could Sheila have shot herself with the rifle which from 7.15am was resting against the bedroom window? How could Jeremy Bamber have shot Sheila with that rifle, and stage manage her body by arranging that rifle on top of her body, to make it appear as though she had taken her own life, when the rifle that fired the fatal shot that killed her, was still resting against the bedroom window, three and a quarter hours after the police first arrived at the scene at about 4am, or just beforehand...

[mike tesko]

I will tell you all why Essex police have gone to all this trouble to fabricate evidence to help get Jeremy Bamber convicted for these murders, and why they continue to play cat and mouse, over the disclosure of withheld documents, photographs, and video footage. The police were forced into adopting these tactics because of pressure asserted by the relatives, in particular, Robert Boutflour, and associates...

I know exactly what went on, why Essex police found themselves in such a vulnerable position...

[mike tesko]

You have all got to realize that police forces the length and breadth of the country were caught up in corruption and dishonesty scandals since the beginning of the 1980's to the mid 1990's, for over a decade it was common practice for rogue officers to frame innocent parties and secure convictions based upon false and fabricated evidence. Essex police had their own skeletons in the cupboard, one such case was the Diane Jones matter. What took place at whf was potentially as scandalous, since police shot and killed two unarmed occupants upon entry to the main kitchen, one of these occupants was Ralph Bamber who police shot four times in two regions of the head, the other unarmed person they shot was Sheila Caffell, albeit they mistakenly thought she had died upon being shot on that occasion, and left her body unguarded whilst they went about searching and clearing other rooms of the farmhouse, looking for victims. Sheila only died after she made her own way upstairs to the main bedroom and collapsed, at which stage the rifle was brought from the window as a gauging exercise, without anyone checking the rifle to see whether or not it was still loaded with Ammunition, or made safe. Sheila was shot under the chin when the rifle was placed against her body, and whilst police were arranging her hands upon and around the gun as if to see whether she could fire the weapon, the trigger was activated discharging bullet PV/19 up through her chin, mouth and becoming deposited inside her brain...

This is the true version of what took place, in the presence of some of the most senior detectives employed by Essex police of that generation. The firearm operation had been a complete disaster, full of fundamental errors. This is what Essex police did not want anyone outside its circle to find out about, but because of his influence with people in high places through his membership in the Freemasons, Robert Boutflour found out the truth, and used this knowledge to force the police to prosecute Jeremy Bamber, as the killer...

[mike tesko]

You have all got to realize that police forces the length and breadth of the country were caught up in corruption and dishonesty scandals since the beginning of the 1980's to the mid 1990's, for over a decade it was common practice for rogue officers to frame innocent parties and secure convictions based upon false and fabricated evidence. Essex police had their own skeletons in the cupboard, one such case was the Diane Jones matter. What took place at whf was potentially as scandalous, since police shot and killed two unarmed occupants upon entry to the main kitchen, one of these occupants was Ralph Bamber who police shot four times in two regions of the head, the other unarmed person they shot was Sheila Caffell, albeit they mistakenly thought she had died upon being shot on that occasion, and left her body unguarded whilst they went about searching and clearing other rooms of the farmhouse, looking for victims. Sheila only died after she made her own way upstairs to the main bedroom and collapsed, at which stage the rifle was brought from the window as a gauging exercise, without anyone checking the rifle to see whether or not it was still loaded with Ammunition, or made safe. Sheila was shot under the chin when the rifle was placed against her body, and whilst police were arranging her hands upon and around the gun as if to see whether she could fire the weapon, the trigger was activated discharging bullet PV/19 up through her chin, mouth and becoming deposited inside her brain...

This is the true version of what took place, in the presence of some of the most senior detectives employed by Essex police of that generation. The firearm operation had been a complete disaster, full of fundamental errors. This is what Essex police did not want anyone outside its circle to find out about, but because of his influence with people in high places through his membership in the Freemasons, Robert Boutflour found out the truth, and used this knowledge to force the police to prosecute Jeremy Bamber, as the killer...

Robert Boutflour did this, with financial motive in mind...

[scipio_usmc]

Why would an officer involved in the raid, have to produce an 'OFFICERS REPORT', about the shooting incident in the kitchen, if police did not fire any shots....Of course the raid team fired off shots in the main kitchen, everything points to that having happened.

Because Nevill was shot dead in the kitchen by the killer.  While they were addressing such you misrepresent they were discussing police shooting victims.  Nothing at all suggests the raid team fired any shots period. Such misrepresentations are why you have no credibility on this board. You have completely and totally undermined your own goal of getting people to listen to you- you are not trusted at all about anything. A rational person would try to rectify that by posting honestly to try to regain some credibility and confidence. 

WPC Jeapes saw the rifle leaning against the bedroom window at 7.15am, prior to the raid team even setting one foot into the farmhouse - how can Sheila have already been dead in that bedroom by that stage, with that rifle at the window, on top of her body, at one and the same time? Before you go down the road of trying to suggest Jeapes didn't see that rifle at that window, let me halt you in your tracks, because no other rifle was found leaning against any other window, except the one at the main bedroom window. Jeapes was covering the corner of white / red when she saw the rifle leaning against the window. This gave her the perfect angle with which to see the rifle in question which was leaning against the main bedroom window at 7.15am, not on top of Sheila's body, laid out on the floor at the same time in the same bedroom. Jeapes was a qualified firearms instructor with Essex police, she knew what she saw, and it was a rifle that she saw, a rifle which was photographed in the same position three hours later, so how could Sheila have shot herself with the rifle which from 7.15am was resting against the bedroom window? How could Jeremy Bamber have shot Sheila with that rifle, and stage manage her body by arranging that rifle on top of her body, to make it appear as though she had taken her own life, when the rifle that fired the fatal shot that killed her, was still resting against the bedroom window, three and a quarter hours after the police first arrived at the scene at about 4am, or just beforehand...

This is another of your favorite lies that has been exposed as complete lies on your part.

1) You lie saying Jeapes definitely saw a rifle.  She said she saw something that APPEARED ot be the tip of a rifle in the window.  She wasn't sure if she actually saw the tip of a rifle or not.  The tip of a rifle simply looks like a skinny stick if in a 2nd floor window and looking in yards away while on the ground.

2) You keep lying about the window she was looking in.  She stated she was looking in the boxroom window.  She stated in no uncertain terms she was at the containment site facing the kitchen. 
She made an ERROR in saying the kitchen containment position was on the red/white corner we know for a fact it wasn't called this.  We know for a fact the men who actually were at the red/white corner and she wasn't with them.  You ignore this and lie saying she was looking in the bedroom window.

3) The photo you rely on of the Anshutz leaning near the bedroom window was taken hours after the raid team left.  It was taken after the crime scene officers photographed the gun on her body then they removed the rifle from her body and placed it near the window.

Your claims are thus nothing but lies that undermine your own credibility.  A liar like you is useless to Jeremy that is why he wants you to go off and find some other case to lie about and use as a vehicle for your agenda of garnering attention attacking police.

[mike tesko]

Run along back into your little hole on the other site - everything I have said is true. The police shot Sheila, she did not shoot herself, and Jeremy certainly did not shoot her. Essex police have played a flanker by focussing attention on Sheila's death, and used a bag of tricks to pull the wool over the eyes of the jurors, to convict him with dodgy ammunition, dodgy silencer, dodgy blood, and dodgy paint, dodgy lead deposit results, dodgy relatives, dodgy girlfriend, dodgy coppers, and 30 years down the road, the police force at the centre of this miscarriage of justice, continue to play cat and mouse over disclosure of withheld evidence...

[mike tesko]

Sheila shot and killed the others, police shot her, in bizarre circumstances - that's the truth...

[mike tesko]

No evidence was produced during the trial to prove that Sheila could not have been responsible for shooting dead, June Bamber, and her two children, Daniel and Nicholas Caffell...

[mike tesko]

Once the contents of the 'OFFICERS REPORT' about the shooting incident which occurred upon entry into the kitchen, is disclosed, all will be revealed. Since, the shooting in the kitchen is what the report is about. No rifle or any other weapon was found in the kitchen that anyone could have fired, other than the weapons carried into the kitchen by the police...

[scipio_usmc]

Run along back into your little hole on the other site - everything I have said is true. The police shot Sheila, she did not shoot herself, and Jeremy certainly did not shoot her. Essex police have played a flanker by focussing attention on Sheila's death, and used a bag of tricks to pull the wool over the eyes of the jurors, to convict him with dodgy ammunition, dodgy silencer, dodgy blood, and dodgy paint, dodgy lead deposit results, dodgy relatives, dodgy girlfriend, dodgy coppers, and 30 years down the road, the police force at the centre of this miscarriage of justice, continue to play cat and mouse over disclosure of withheld evidence...

Mike as Jeremy's advocate- I hate coppers they are dishonest blokes and thus everything they claim is dodgy and should not be trusted.

With such a great argument- why doesn't Jeremy want you as an advocate I wonder...

[mike tesko]

Not one of the firearm officers who entered whf on that particularly occasion, have come out and said police did not fire any shots during the operation...

[scipio_usmc]

No evidence was produced during the trial to prove that Sheila could not have been responsible for shooting dead, June Bamber, and her two children, Daniel and Nicholas Caffell...

You leave out Nevill and Sheila because evidence was presented to establish Sheila didn't kill them but rather someone else did.  It is quite obvious the same person who killed Nevill and Sheila killed June and the twins as well with the same weapon.  So admitting Sheila didn't kill herself or Nevill in effect is an admission she didn't kill anyone. The suggestion police killed Nevill and Sheila is nonsense supported by zilch. Jeremy and his defense are INFINITELY better arguing Sheila killed everyone than going with your nonsense.  Even though the evidence is against them it is even less friendly to your claims.

[mike tesko]

Funny how Jeremy is adamant even now that dodgy police framed him with use of the dodgy moderator, and help of relatives, and a jilted girlfriend...

[scipio_usmc]

Not one of the firearm officers who entered whf on that particularly occasion, have come out and said police did not fire any shots during the operation...

They detailed what they did and failed to mention ever using their weapons that is a claim they didn't use them- the same way Bonnett failing to mention receiving any call from Nevill amounts to him claiming he didn't receive a call from Nevill.  They are negative inferences.

Q. What did you do today John.

A. Well so far I got up, ate breakfast, brushed my teeth, shaved, dressed, drove to the office, spoke with some coworkers, did some boring boiler plate work, and have surfed the web. 


I didn't expressly deny shooting someone who tried to rob me so does that mean maybe I did and if asked I will admit it?  Get real I didn't mention those lame things and accidentally leave out the most exciting part of my day of someone trying to rob me and blowing them away.