Mystery of the presence of human blood both ends of the silencer, 13th August...

[scipio_usmc]

Do You realize, that by DI 'Ron' Cook dismantling the moderator in his possession, and rebuilding it, without noticing any blood present either on or in between the separated baffle plates, has a devastating effect and consequences for the claim made by the blood expert, John Hayward, and the ballistic expert, Malcolm Fletcher, that not only did they find a loose flake of dried blood, but they also found bloodstaining which had penetrated as far down as the 7th / 8th baffle plate - How can any of this be true, if 'Ron' Cook had dismantled the same moderator, separated the same internal baffle plates more than two weeks before Hayward and Fletcher carried out the same procedure on the same silencer, when by that stage the silencer in question was saturated in blood to as far down as the 8th Baffle plate, and the key loose flake of blood by the 10th September 1985?  How did all that blood on the baffle plates, and the loose flake, manage to get inside the moderator, after 'Ron' Cook had rebuilt the bloodfree version of the same silencer, two weeks beforehand. Sheila's blood, if that is what the blood was in truth, could not have got inside that silencer at the time she had been shot and killed over a month beforehand, otherwise 'Ron' Cook would have been the witness who found all this blood inside the silencer at the time he dismantled it late August 1985, not Hayward and Fletcher over two weeks later, on the 10th September 1985...

This proves that the moderator evidence was fabricated, and the conspiracy to do this involved, relatives, police officers and Home Office experts...

Do you realize that making up the claim Cook dismantled the moderator before it was examined by the lab fails in any way to undermine the moderator evidence but rather simply undermines your own credibility.

You keep making up that the photo of it dismantled was taken by Cook before the lab examined it though in fact is was taken after the lab dismantled it and this lie about the photo is what you use to try to prove your made up claim that Cook took it apart before the lab did.

You made up that blood was found INSIDE both ends of the moderator then make up nonsense about how this undermines the moderator and attack the lawyers for not using such made up claims to help Jeremy.

You make up that the moderator was disassembled by Cook and much more then say the defense should listen to you because you are a genius who can get Jeremy off.

Jeremy can't use made up claims to get out of jail.  These claims are all totally valueless to him except for use to try to fool some ignorant members of the public into supporting him.  This crap has no chance in hell of convincing a court to free him.

[mike tesko]

How did Sheila's blood get into the moderator - and why didn't 'Ron' Cook find it, two weeks before John Hayward, and Malcolm Fletcher did?

[scipio_usmc]

Why should I run away?  I would rather challenge you to start being honest.

What did you just post?  Was it a case document establishing Cook dismantled the moderator prior to the lab examining it and found no blood?  No it is just a document written by a Jeremy supporter containing the unsupported allegation.

If you want us to believe you then post evidence instead of merely something that makes the same allegations you make.

[mike tesko]

MALCOLM FLETCHER was sent a number of photographs taken of the dismantled sound moderator by DI RON COOK, (see HOLMES 78/14).  These images had been taken by DI RON COOK at Chelmsford HQ Scenes of Crime Department on 21st August 1985, (see Holmes 8/215 DI RON COOK’S 25th September 1991 Witness Statement PDF page 33)...

RON Cook certainly dismantled the silencer before it was sent to the lab' - Look at these images carefully. How could these photographs have been taken after the moderator had arrived at the lab' in view of there being no evidence of any packaging, or even any signed exhibit labels attached, either to the anshuzt rifle, or the sound moderator?

[scipio_usmc]

MALCOLM FLETCHER was sent a number of photographs taken of the dismantled sound moderator by DI RON COOK, (see HOLMES 78/14).  These images had been taken by DI RON COOK at Chelmsford HQ Scenes of Crime Department on 21st August 1985, (see Holmes 8/215 DI RON COOK’S 25th September 1991 Witness Statement PDF page 33)...

RON Cook certainly dismantled the silencer before it was sent to the lab' - Look at these images carefully. How could these photographs have been taken after the moderator had arrived at the lab' in view of there being no evidence of any packaging, or even any signed exhibit labels attached, either to the anshuzt rifle, or the sound moderator?

His statement references taking photos of prints after superglue fuming treatment.  He write squat about dismantling the moderator and then taking photos.

There are no documents establishing the photos of it dismantled were taken prior to the lab taking it apart. It is obvious these photos were taken after the lab dismantled it.  Jeremy supporters are simply lying.

[mike tesko]

The images posted show that these items (anshuzt rifle and moderator) had no exhibit labels attached to them, therefore, no lab' in the UK would have accepted them, they would have been rejected...

[David1819]

I read it and actually understand it while you seem to have severe comprehension problems. 

The line (ridge) she referred to is on the OUTSIDE of the moderator. 

It is towards the rear of the moderator but is not the back of the moderator.

If you can read you will note I referenced the area repeatedly, posted the examination record of this area and even posted this which points out the ring where the blood was and it is easy to see it is the outside of the moderator not inside and not the end of the moderator:

If you actually read what I was typing I never claimed it was inside the end of the moderator. Just like the trial transcript sais There was also blood staining in the ridge on the opposite end where the name was stamped.
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The name is engraved at the end of the Moderator on the exterior around the screw thread where it would be screwed to the gun.

[mike tesko]

Then of course, there is the Memo sent by 'Ron' Cook to DCS 'Mick' Ainsley, where Cook makes mention of the fact that it is a well known fact that exposing a bloodstained item to cynocryalate fuming can produce adverse effects on tests such as bloodgrouping, but that didn't matter in this instance, he stated because the blood was identified before the moderator was exposed to superglue testing, or words to that effect - well, lo and behold, 'Ron' Cook was even lying to his superior officer about this matter, because the key blood evifdence was found to be present inside the silencer on the 10th September 1985, by Hayward and Fletcher, yet 'Ron' Cook had exposed the silencer to superglue treatment on the 23rd August 1985. Seems to me like 'Ron' Cook was out to deceive everyone...

[mike tesko]

No matter what anybody says, it will be possible to officially establish when and if 'Ron' Cook took these photographs, that he dismantled it, that he separated the individual baffles and did not report finding any blood on any of the baffles before he rebuilt it, and screwed the rebuilt silencer directly onto the thread of the anshuzt rifle barrel - if he did these things, moderator evidence has to be thrown out, so does blood group evidence and paint evidence found upon and inside it (Bingo). How could the blood found in the moderator on the 10th September 1985, which was identified as being blood that was unique and exclusive to Sheila Caffell, have got there at the time she was shot and killed on the 7th August 1985, if 'Ron Cook did not find any blood at all in the moderator when he dismantled it and rebuilt it on the 21st August 1985? The only possible explanation anyone can arrive at therefore is that Sheila Caffells blood got into the moderator by a process of contamination, on some occasion after Cook dismantled it and separated the very same baffle plates upon which was later discovered the all important key blood group evidence...

It's not looking good for 'Ron' Cook...

Still not yet accounted for was a third blood group sample taken from Sheila Caffell during autopsy, did 'Ron' Cook deliberately contaminated the internal baffle plates he had separated, using blood from the unaccounted for blood group sample taken from Sheila Caffell that COLP took an interest in?

[scipio_usmc]

Then of course, there is the Memo sent by 'Ron' Cook to DCS 'Mick' Ainsley, where Cook makes mention of the fact that it is a well known fact that exposing a bloodstained item to cynocryalate fuming can produce adverse effects on tests such as bloodgrouping, but that didn't matter in this instance, he stated because the blood was identified before the moderator was exposed to superglue testing, or words to that effect - well, lo and behold, 'Ron' Cook was even lying to his superior officer about this matter, because the key blood evifdence was found to be present inside the silencer on the 10th September 1985, by Hayward and Fletcher, yet 'Ron' Cook had exposed the silencer to superglue treatment on the 23rd August 1985. Seems to me like 'Ron' Cook was out to deceive everyone...

If Cook did claim that he was wrong but you have not produced evidence he made this erroneous statement anyway.

[scipio_usmc]

If you actually read what I was typing I never claimed it was inside the end of the moderator. Just like the trial transcript sais There was also blood staining in the ridge on the opposite end where the name was stamped.
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The name is engraved at the end of the Moderator on the exterior around the screw thread where it would be screwed to the gun.

I posted the exact model Nevill had.  There is the engraving and then the round ridge that runs around it.  The blood was found in that ridge.  I posted this and thus refuted Mike's claims of blood being found inside both ends before you posted about it.  If you are in agreement then instead of criticizing me you should be criticizing Mike for still trying to claim blood was found inside both ends.

His claims made no sense anyway.  He said blood was found inside the back of the moderator and thus blood should have been on the threads of the rifle as well and that since it was not on the rifle threads it must have been planted.  Even if the laws of physics ceased to exist and drawback could make it to the end of the moderator the blood would be able to get onto the threads of the moderator because the outside threads of the rifle would be touching them.  The only way for blood to get on the threads would be if the moderator were removed and the killer gloves leaked blood inside which would not result in any blood getting on the rifle which was no longer attached.  So the argument never made a lick of sense on top of being false about the blood.

The only value of this thread if any is it underscores just how little blood was outside of the moderator and helps explain why Jeremy failed to notice it.

There was a tiny drop on the face, a tiny drop stuck inside the knurled portion and a tiny drop inside the ridge.

Even if he cleaned it, it would be easy to miss tiny drops in crevices, the easiest place to see anything is the smooth tube. 1/8 inch is not very noticeable.

Robert Boutflour didn't recall seeing any blood on it and that is because it wasn't covered in blood it just had a few tiny specks.     

[Jan]

or a blob like jam ( jelly to you)

[scipio_usmc]

or a blob like jam ( jelly to you)

What Eaton characterized as a small blob was inside the moderator not on it.

[mike tesko]

The anshuzt rifle was resting  against the main bedroom window, at the time Sheila received the fi4ß5 shot downstairs. How was it possible for Sheila to shoot herself downstairs in the neck, with the rifle that was upstairs resting against the main bedroom window on the white cladded part of the farmhouse?  It wasn't possible which is why police had to arrange for  'a third bullet', to be introduce into the batch of crime scene ammunition, an added bullet whi h weighed heavier than its original replacement - the original fragmented bullet recovered from Sheila's neck during autopsy on 7th August 1985, weighed 1.5453 gram, but the additional bullet that was introduced as its replacement bullet weighed in at over 1.71 gram. This was done because the lighter bullet fragment had not been fired through the anshuzt rifle, but its heavier replacement had. The problem is that this heavier bullet was not fired via the anshuzt rifle until a long time after the day of the shootings in some sort of unreported test fire with control ammunition...

[mike tesko]

Ordinary people are not daft. Once it is pointed out to them that police and the ballistic expert, relied upon three different Bullets, to convict Jeremy Bamber of killing his sister,  with two shots, there will be a human outcry demanding his immediate release. Jeremy Bamber could not have shot his sister with use of the third bullet which weighed in at just over 1.71 gram, although he currently stands convicted of doing so. He could not have killed his sister with bullet 1.71+ grams on 7th August 1985, because that bullet (1.71+ gram) did not get test fired in an unreported test fire of the anshuzt rifle until over One month afterwards. The police, and the ballistic expert had knowledge that bullet 1.71+ grams was not actually fired via the anshuzt rifle at the time of the shootings. They knew it was nothing but a prop that was introduced just so that Fletcher could argue whilst testifying that all the Bullets had been fired via the anshuzt rifle - without the substitution of the original 1.5453 bullet with the 1.71+ bullet, police and the ballistic expert would have had to concede that at least one of the 25 Bullets had been fired with use of a second weapon...