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Offline maggie

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Re: Trudie being vague again:
« Reply #75 on: November 14, 2015, 01:25:PM »
Because he realized that Julie was on a shared line. As it was he saved his chuckling for when he thought he had Julie alone at Bourtree Cottage,but DS Jones was listening at the door and overheard it.
If JB realised Julie was on a shared line and therefore spoke in code, it would explain the strange conversation Julie reported but also reinforces the fact Julie knew all about his plans imo.
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Re: Trudie being vague again:
« Reply #76 on: November 14, 2015, 01:36:PM »
Because he realized that Julie was on a shared line. As it was he saved his chuckling for when he thought he had Julie alone at Bourtree Cottage,but DS Jones was listening at the door and overheard it.


Steve, I'm not certain who the line was shared with. I recall that when my parents first had a phone, the line was shared with an opposite neighbour.

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Re: Trudie being vague again:
« Reply #77 on: November 14, 2015, 01:59:PM »
Well I was thinking primarily of her flatmates,one of whom answered the telephone before her. What really was the purpose of Jeremy telephoning at that hour if not a clumsy attempt to rope her in as an accessory,instead of waiting a few hours until he (as he did) telephoned from Goldhanger in the company of Police?
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Re: Trudie being vague again:
« Reply #78 on: November 14, 2015, 02:02:PM »
Well I was thinking primarily of her flatmates,one of whom answered the telephone before her. What really was the purpose of Jeremy telephoning at that hour if not a clumsy attempt to rope her in as an accessory,instead of waiting a few hours until he (as he did) telephone from Goldhanger in the company of Police?

I don't agree Steve. The fact that Julie had room mates was an advantage because there were others that could corroborate his 'call from Nevill' - not only was Julie party to the call in the early hours, the rest of the household were too.
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Re: Trudie being vague again:
« Reply #79 on: November 14, 2015, 02:04:PM »
Well I was thinking primarily of her flatmates,one of whom answered the telephone before her. What really was the purpose of Jeremy telephoning at that hour if not a clumsy attempt to rope her in as an accessory,instead of waiting a few hours until he (as he did) telephone from Goldhanger in the company of Police?

Sorry Steve. I obviously misunderstood what you meant by "shared line."

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Re: Trudie being vague again:
« Reply #80 on: November 14, 2015, 02:07:PM »
I don't agree Steve. The fact that Julie had room mates was an advantage because there were others that could corroborate his 'call from Nevill' - not only was Julie party to the call in the early hours, the rest of the household were too.
I don't see what advantage would be gained just for a few hours between (as happened) telephone calls two and three, but I do think Julie can be blamed for not protesting vocally enough at the time he was telling her about his evil scheme.

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Re: Trudie being vague again:
« Reply #81 on: November 14, 2015, 02:10:PM »
I don't see what advantage would be gained just for a few hours between (as happened) telephone calls two and three, but I do think Julie can be blamed for not protesting vocally enough at the time he was telling her about his evil scheme.

Jeremy calls Julie to say that there is something wrong, this can be corroborated by several other people which gives weight to his story that his father had called  and he was distressed enough to call Julie. That's the advantage.
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Re: Trudie being vague again:
« Reply #82 on: November 14, 2015, 02:15:PM »
I don't see what advantage would be gained just for a few hours between (as happened) telephone calls two and three, but I do think Julie can be blamed for not protesting vocally enough at the time he was telling her about his evil scheme.


10p Steve. As Adam keeps reminding us, Jeremy made certain to pick up 10p -before he left Goldhanger- in anticipation of making the call. Actually, he cadged it from the constable, but never mind the details. The point is, 10p didn't allow him much time to say anything, which I believe Adam suggested to have been his plan.

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Re: Trudie being vague again:
« Reply #83 on: November 14, 2015, 02:24:PM »

10p Steve. As Adam keeps reminding us, Jeremy made certain to pick up 10p -before he left Goldhanger- in anticipation of making the call. Actually, he cadged it from the constable, but never mind the details. The point is, 10p didn't allow him much time to say anything, which I believe Adam suggested to have been his plan.
If we're on the subject of conspiracy theories the "I only have one 10p" could also have been code,though wasn't he in the presence of Police in Goldhanger? Whatever the witnesses in Julie's digs at Caterham Road overheard this was always going to be proxy evidence at best.

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Re: Trudie being vague again:
« Reply #84 on: November 14, 2015, 02:27:PM »
what about the note he sent to Julie that the police intercepted - was that code as well.

He said that he just hoped if he told her he wished they had not split up she would just come to her senses and retract what she had said.

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Re: Trudie being vague again:
« Reply #85 on: November 14, 2015, 03:04:PM »

10p Steve. As Adam keeps reminding us, Jeremy made certain to pick up 10p -before he left Goldhanger- in anticipation of making the call. Actually, he cadged it from the constable, but never mind the details. The point is, 10p didn't allow him much time to say anything, which I believe Adam suggested to have been his plan.

Have you got a source that he was given the 10p.

It was very generous of the police to give him one 10p. Bamber's phone call would be as short as Neville's. Now I know why Bamber made a complaint in 1994.
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Re: Trudie being vague again:
« Reply #86 on: November 14, 2015, 03:27:PM »
Have you got a source that he was given the 10p.

It was very generous of the police to give him one 10p. Bamber's phone call would be as short as Neville's. Now I know why Bamber made a complaint in 1994.

Do you mean Source or original source ;D

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Re: Trudie being vague again:
« Reply #87 on: November 14, 2015, 04:04:PM »
Have you got a source that he was given the 10p.

It was very generous of the police to give him one 10p. Bamber's phone call would be as short as Neville's. Now I know why Bamber made a complaint in 1994.


Yes, thank-you.