why doesnt jeremy go back to retrieve the silencer.

[scipio_usmc]

According to AE it was a blob of jelly, like jam and there was a white hair attached, thik he may have noticed this but heyho maybe she made a mistake.

She described the blood inside the hole as match stick head sized.  The blood outside of it was even smaller that is why the lab was unable to successfully type test it. 

They didn't notice the blood until they very carefully studied it at Oak Farm. Why would Jeremy carefully study it when he didn't appreciate the significance the blood could have?  If it had a significant amount of blood on the outside that you would clean just because a ton of blood would be obvious to be related to the killings.

Why would he care about a hair?  How do you know the hair wasn't in the closet and didn't get attached to it after being put in the closet?  I am sure the house and closets had Nevill's hair around I don't see how a hair means squat it could get attached before, during or after the murder. If it was Jeremy's gun located at Jeremy's house and had Nevill's hair on it that would be more significant.

[maggie]

She described the blood inside the hole as match stick head sized.  The blood outside of it was even smaller that is why the lab was unable to successfully type test it. 

They didn't notice the blood until they very carefully studied it at Oak Farm. Why would Jeremy carefully study it when he didn't appreciate the significance the blood could have?  If it had a significant amount of blood on the outside that you would clean just because a ton of blood would be obvious to be related to the killings.

Why would he care about a hair?  How do you know the hair wasn't in the closet and didn't get attached to it after being put in the closet?  I am sure the house and closets had Nevill's hair around I don't see how a hair means squat it could get attached before, during or after the murder. If it was Jeremy's gun located at Jeremy's house and had Nevill's hair on it that would be more significant.

I know all about it and the hair could have been anything even a cat hair but whatever you say she did state it was a blob of blood like a blob of jam.....  you believe the whole sorry story and I don't at best AE was a bad witness.

[scipio_usmc]

I know all about it and the hair could have been anything even a cat hair but whatever you say she did state it was a blob of blood like a blob of jam.....  you believe the whole sorry story and I don't at best AE was a bad witness.

She said that the blood inside was a blob.  She didn't say anything about a blob on the outside. The outside had very little blood on it which means either it was cleaned off but cleaned ineptly or so little blood adhered to it that Jeremy didn't notice it and didn't bother to clean it.

The lab found little blood on the outside, so little that their type testing failed. Not only did the lab note the blood in the opening that Ann called a blob and test it to determine whether it was human, after such Lincoln still found enough blood on the inside opening to successfully type test it. This blood would only be noticed though if you actually looked inside the hole.  Why would Jeremy do that?  All he cared about was making sure the outside wasn't covered in blood so that when looking through the closet someone would not see it covered in blood and figure out that so much blood means it must have been used in the murders.  The family didn't take it because they noticed blood they took it because they felt police should have the moderator, scope and bullets. It was after carefully studying it later that the blood was noticed.     

[maggie]

She said that the blood inside was a blob.  She didn't say anything about a blob on the outside. The outside had very little blood on it which means either it was cleaned off but cleaned ineptly or so little blood adhered to it that Jeremy didn't notice it and didn't bother to clean it.

The lab found little blood on the outside, so little that their type testing failed. Not only did the lab note the blood in the opening that Ann called a blob and test it to determine whether it was human, after such Lincoln still found enough blood on the inside opening to successfully type test it. This blood would only be noticed though if you actually looked inside the hole.  Why would Jeremy do that?  All he cared about was making sure the outside wasn't covered in blood so that when looking through the closet someone would not see it covered in blood and figure out that so much blood means it must have been used in the murders.  The family didn't take it because they noticed blood they took it because they felt police should have the moderator, scope and bullets. It was after carefully studying it later that the blood was noticed.   

She described the blob as being like a blob of jam how could she have seen it if it was inside the moderator? Personally, I don't believe she saw anything but was told about it and that was her interpretation of how she imagined it...... but there is a possibility that I am mistaken and I'm sure you will tell me I am, why I am, if I should be etc. etc.

[scipio_usmc]

She described the blob of jam how could . She have seen it if it was inside the moderator? Personally, I don't believe she saw anything but was told about it and that was her interpretation of how she imagined it.

The inside of the opening has a lip.  That lip is threaded and acts as a shelf.  On this "shelf" was the blood she saw.  The "blob" she saw sitting on this shelf was removed by the lab on Aug 13 and used to test whether it was human blood or something else. It was determined to be human blood.  On this same "shelf" Lincoln removed enough blood traces to successfully type test it and he determined it to be group A.  If there was no blood there then the lab would not have gotten a positive test for blood and Lincoln would not have found traces of group A blood there. He said the amount of blood remaining there exceeded the amount on the baffles. That is not at all surprising since physics results in the largest particles of blood traveling not far while the smaller particles of blood would be able to travel several inches deep. This results in the quantity of blood found deep being less. 

Since a moderator is open on both sides light can get inside the back while you are looking at the front so long as you hold it in a manner other than looking at the ground. Obviously holding it up to the light or a window with light coming in is the best.  Doing this enabled the family to see the blood inside. They also saw the blood on the face of the moderator when looking at the opening because the face is the aspect containing the opening.  Normally you just see the outside wall.

[maggie]

The inside of the opening has a lip.  That lip is threaded and acts as a shelf.  On this "shelf" was the blood she saw.  The "blob" she saw sitting on this shelf was removed by the lab on Aug 13 and used to test whether it was human blood or something else. It was determined to be human blood.  On this same "shelf" Lincoln removed enough blood traces to successfully type test it and he determined it to be group A.  If there was no blood there then the lab would not have gotten a positive test for blood and Lincoln would not have found traces of group A blood there. He said the amount of blood remaining there exceeded the amount on the baffles. That is not at all surprising since physics results in the largest particles of blood traveling not far while the smaller particles of blood would be able to travel several inches deep. This results in the quantity of blood found deep being less. 

Since a moderator is open on both sides light can get inside the back while you are looking at the front so long as you hold it in a manner other than looking at the ground. Obviously holding it up to the light or a window with light coming in is the best.  Doing this enabled the family to see the blood inside. They also saw the blood on the face of the moderator when looking at the opening because the face is the aspect containing the opening.  Normally you just see the outside wall.

possibly but that is not what she said she saw. We shall agree to differ.

[scipio_usmc]

possibly but that is not what she said she saw. We shall agree to differ.

She said she saw a blob right inside the opening which means on the threaded lip. Other family members likewise said they saw what looked like blood inside the opening on the threaded lip.  The lab saw what they were referring to, tested it and said it was indeed human blood. Defense expert Lincoln found traces of blood left in that same exact spot and determined it was group A blood.

Saying there was no blood there fails the best a Jeremy supporter can do is allege the blood was planted or allege it was June's like the defense claimed at trial.  Denying there was blood there fails miserably.   

[nugnug]

wich makes it all the stranger that jeremy dident clean it.

[lookout]

A " blob " of blood wouldn't have stayed long unless it had been a clot.

[nugnug]

you still think he might might clean it anyway.

i mean if he doesnt get rid of it becouse the relatives will miss it you would think he would clean it up so they wouldent be suspicious when they did see it.

[maggie]

you still think he might might clean it anyway.

i mean if he doesnt get rid of it becouse the relatives will miss it you would think he would clean it up so they wouldent be suspicious when they did see it.

I agree nugs, it's very strange not to give it a clean it wouldn't have taken long. 

[nugnug]

if hes not geting rid of it becouse they might miss it then he must expect them to find it at some time so it would be completly crazy to leave blood on it.

[Jane]

I agree nugs, it's very strange not to give it a clean it wouldn't have taken long.

If it was SO minute that it couldn't be seen unless it was studied very closely -minutely, even!!!- he probably wouldn't have bothered if it wasn't IMMEDIATELY obvious.

[nugnug]

well if it was that minute how did the relatives notice it.

[Jane]

well if it was that minute how did the relatives notice it.

Because they WERE studying it minutely.