The Truth About The Polygraph Test

[Caroline]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1-2K_pCWmI

http://americacomesalive.com/2014/11/08/invention-polygraph/#.Vio0GStrs0k

[nugnug]

how do kno the instruction on that video work.

[Caroline]

how do kno the instruction on that video work.

Because it's been tested.

[guest154]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1-2K_pCWmI

http://americacomesalive.com/2014/11/08/invention-polygraph/#.Vio0GStrs0k

Best saved for Jeremy Kyle. If the test had shown Bamber was lying, I still wouldn't buy into it.  I don't care about an "experts" opinion on Bambers heart rate. 

[Caroline]

Best saved for Jeremy Kyle. If the test had shown Bamber was lying, I still wouldn't buy into it.  I don't care about an "experts" opinion on Bambers heart rate. 

I agree - I only posted it to show that the test doesn't detect a lie, just stress and if the thought of killing your family doesn't bother you too much - you can pass no problem. There is also the fact that he'd already been convicted and knew the test wouldn't get him out - so there wouldn't be much stress involved in taking it.

[Stephanie]

I agree - I only posted it to show that the test doesn't detect a lie, just stress and if the thought of killing your family doesn't bother you too much - you can pass no problem. There is also the fact that he'd already been convicted and knew the test wouldn't get him out - so there wouldn't be much stress involved in taking it.

"During the 100 minute test Mr Mullins, one of the only polygraph experts in the UK, asked three key questions: Did you shoot five members of your family with an Anshutz rifle? Were you in the house when they were shot with an Anshutz rifle? Bamber gave a categorical ‘No’ to each one. Mr Mullins said: ‘You only have to fail one question and you fail the whole test. But he passed every time. We are testing the nervous system, the fight or flight mechanism, and you cannot hide those reactions. But there was no suggestion he was lying in any answers.

Mr Mullins fails to mention or compare the flight or fight responses of a psychopath which imo makes the results of this test null and void.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7430.msg349898.html#msg349898

[lookout]

What is the ratio for people passing a test and being guilty,against failing and being innocent ?

[Jane]

Good job it's obvious to sane people Jeremy is NOT a psychopath

Perhaps you could give a breakdown on how you think people -sane or otherwise- would recognize a psychopath. For starters, what do you think might be their "stand out" features. As, to date, you've never given us ANYTHING worthy of debate, this could be a good place to start.

[Neil]

Perhaps you could give a breakdown on how you think people -sane or otherwise- would recognize a psychopath. For starters, what do you think might be their "stand out" features. As, to date, you've never given us ANYTHING worthy of debate, this could be a good place to start.

I can't remember the last time I read a good, reasoned debate on here.  Too often, debates are de railed and turned into personal spats, because a poster obviously lacks a counter argument. 

It would be genuinely interesting to read a sensible, reasoned debate, once in a while.  This only seems to happen when 'guilters' disagree amongst themselves!

As an aside, I was given cause to visit the Eddie Gilfoyle website the other day.  Whilst I am personally, yet to be convinced of his innocence, it was interesting to see that there were very many supportive testimonials, from eminent professionals and senior police persons.  It prompted me to compare the level of Gilfoyles support to that of Bamber's! 

[guest2181]

I can't remember the last time I read a good, reasoned debate on here.  Too often, debates are de railed and turned into personal spats, because a poster obviously lacks a counter argument. 

It would be genuinely interesting to read a sensible, reasoned debate, once in a while.  This only seems to happen when 'guilters' disagree amongst themselves!

That's a fair observation Neil.

[Jane]

I can't remember the last time I read a good, reasoned debate on here.  Too often, debates are de railed and turned into personal spats, because a poster obviously lacks a counter argument. 

It would be genuinely interesting to read a sensible, reasoned debate, once in a while.  This only seems to happen when 'guilters' disagree amongst themselves!

As an aside, I was given cause to visit the Eddie Gilfoyle website the other day.  Whilst I am personally, yet to be convinced of his innocence, it was interesting to see that there were very many supportive testimonials, from eminent professionals and senior police persons.  It prompted me to compare the level of Gilfoyles support to that of Bamber's!

Neil, as our two most vociferous supporters have nothing but their belief in Jeremy's innocence to support them, all they can hope to achieve is the disruption and/or derailment of an ongoing debate with stories of how horrid are Jeremy's detractors, and how the case is moving forward with one or two people now donating to Jeremy's "release fund". I believe, in political circles, it's called "heckling."

[JackiePreece]

I can't remember the last time I read a good, reasoned debate on here.  Too often, debates are de railed and turned into personal spats, because a poster obviously lacks a counter argument. 

It would be genuinely interesting to read a sensible, reasoned debate, once in a while.  This only seems to happen when 'guilters' disagree amongst themselves!

As an aside, I was given cause to visit the Eddie Gilfoyle website the other day.  Whilst I am personally, yet to be convinced of his innocence, it was interesting to see that there were very many supportive testimonials, from eminent professionals and senior police persons.  It prompted me to compare the level of Gilfoyles support to that of Bamber's!

This is now just a forum for guilty posters

Jan, Jon, Patti, Tyler, Alias and Grahame do not like posting on her for obvious reasons

[Jane]

This is now just a forum for guilty posters

Jan, Jon, Patti, Tyler, Alias and Grahame do not like posting on her for obvious reasons

Or maybe it's that the reasoned arguments for his guilt are just too convincing for them to use sentiment as argument against.

[lookout]

 Sentiment doesn't come into it with my posts,just good down to earth justice  ( where ? ) for a man who's been wronged. I remain as determined as Jeremy and his other supporters,legal and non-legal to see this through. Nothing and nobody will make me change my stance on this case.

[guest2181]

Sentiment doesn't come into it with my posts,just good down to earth justice  ( where ? ) for a man who's been wronged. I remain as determined as Jeremy and his other supporters,legal and non-legal to see this through. Nothing and nobody will make me change my stance on this case.

I do believe you.

If Jeremy confessed, you would still think him innocent.