Neville's call to Jeremy. A 1% likelihood ?

[lookout]

For God's sake Lookout, you know what I am talking about on every point! NOW you really are showing deceit - because all of these have been talked about a lot recently.
But taking them one by one.

You claimed a "source" had told you information about the state of Nevilles pyjama top.
NGB and Caroline - who have seen the photo corrected you. I believe the two of them.

A phonecall poll was posted here, by Caroline I believe, not because there is any truth to it but to show that MOST people don't believe it. The phone call is official site propaganda - I think you're the only person here who believes it.

The second hidden COLP report was posted about by.......YOU when you were going on aboutcomments made by AE in her COLP statement - Patti traced these back to a pro Jeremy blog - by someone of the name of Poppy - who was claiming there is a hidden COLP report.

All I can see are straightforward debates and MY opinions given. What the Hell have they got to do with anything besides you using them as fodder in which to continually goad me,you nasty horrible person.
All you're fit for is telling tales about me,being as nasty as you possibly can,though it doesn't take much, and generally nit-picking EVERY damn post I make.
What I post are MY opinions,rightly or wrongly and I don't need you to snipe at each and every one of them. YOU don't know any more than I do !

[guest154]

All I can see are straightforward debates and MY opinions given. What the Hell have they got to do with anything besides you using them as fodder in which to continually goad me,you nasty horrible person.
All you're fit for is telling tales about me,being as nasty as you possibly can,though it doesn't take much, and generally nit-picking EVERY damn post I make.
What I post are MY opinions,rightly or wrongly and I don't need you to snipe at each and every one of them. YOU don't know any more than I do !

No, Lookout, I don't know anymore than you - or anyone else. We all have the same information to go on. But you were wrong about the photo of Ralph, you are wrong about the phone call from Ralph and you are wrong about a second hidden COLP report with comments from AE.

Now that, IS NOT PERSONAL against you - if Caroline was posting such, she would be wrong too!

But all you're doing is backtracking, as usual. It wasn't your OPINION about Ralphs clothing, you CLAIMED you had a SOURCE.

It may not be YOU making the BS up - but you're the one posting it. It may have been your source that MADE UP seeing the photo of Ralph uncensored - but it was YOU that posted it on here.

It may be POPPY who MADE UP a secret second COLP report with comments from AE but it was YOU who posted it on here.

Call me all the names you like, I don't really care.

[Jane]

All I can see are straightforward debates and MY opinions given. What the Hell have they got to do with anything besides you using them as fodder in which to continually goad me,you nasty horrible person.
All you're fit for is telling tales about me,being as nasty as you possibly can,though it doesn't take much, and generally nit-picking EVERY damn post I make.
What I post are MY opinions,rightly or wrongly and I don't need you to snipe at each and every one of them. YOU don't know any more than I do !

Lookout, that seems to be a very strong reaction to what Mat has just said. Could it be that you're taking it a bit too personally? I know you can't always recall where you've read the things you've said, OR who said them but it might be better for you to reference your source BEFORE you post them, then you won't be blamed for it.

[Caroline]

For Lookout http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,3703.msg148174.html#msg148174

I found the post but not the evidence to back it up.

[lookout]

No, Lookout, I don't know anymore than you - or anyone else. We all have the same information to go on. But you were wrong about the photo of Ralph, you are wrong about the phone call from Ralph and you are wrong about a second hidden COLP report with comments from AE.

Now that, IS NOT PERSONAL against you - if Caroline was posting such, she would be wrong too!

But all you're doing is backtracking, as usual. It wasn't your OPINION about Ralphs clothing, you CLAIMED you had a SOURCE.

It may not be YOU making the BS up - but you're the one posting it. It may have been your source that MADE UP seeing the photo of Ralph uncensored - but it was YOU that posted it on here.

It may be POPPY who MADE UP a secret second COLP report with comments from AE but it was YOU who posted it on here.

Call me all the names you like, I don't really care.

Tell me why does it bother you SO much that I happen to post the wrong information ? Or is it because it's me ? I have noticed your attitude towards those who think JB is guilty against those who are either unsure or shock horror whether they dare be like me and say he's innocent. Don't you think it's time that you stopped finding fault with my posts and stop making a big deal of where I MAY have gone wrong and just continue to keep agreeing with your own " team  ? "

If I want to believe that Neville phoned,then so be it,it's my opinion and has got nothing to do with you. If taped copies of the original tapes had been retained then the jury might have recognised the difference in the voices making those calls. Strange how Jeremy wouldn't have been worried nor bothered if they'd been retained ? In fact he was probably hopping mad that no copies had been made as conveniently enough the originals were destroyed a day before his first arrest ! If EP knew they were going to arrest Jeremy for questioning,why did they destroy the tapes within a day of knowing ?

I don't follow OS because in my opinion they've got a lot wrong,lawyers or not.
My opinions are my own and it's not up to you or anyone else to change them.
I don't tell anyone that they're wrong because that's THEIR opinion. 

[guest154]

Tell me why does it bother you SO much that I happen to post the wrong information ?
If I want to believe that Neville phoned,then so be it,it's my opinion and has got nothing to do with you. If taped copies of the original tapes had been retained then the jury might have recognised the difference in the voices making those calls. Strange how Jeremy wouldn't have been worried nor bothered if they'd been retained ? In fact he was probably hopping mad that no copies had been made as conveniently enough the originals were destroyed a day before his first arrest ! If EP knew they were going to arrest Jeremy for questioning,why did they destroy the tapes within a day of knowing ?

I don't follow OS because in my opinion they've got a lot wrong,lawyers or not.
My opinions are my own and it's not up to you or anyone else to change them.
I don't tell anyone that they're wrong because that's THEIR opinion.

There were never any taped phone calls.  Recorded calls destroyed a day before Bambers arrest? See this is the problem I have with your posts.  It's things like these why you get a negative backlash and why supporters think you're a plant to make them look bad.

No taped phone call.
Wasn't destroyed the day before his arrest.

Post evidence and prove me wrong.

[Steve_uk]

Tell me why does it bother you SO much that I happen to post the wrong information ? Or is it because it's me ? I have noticed your attitude towards those who think JB is guilty against those who are either unsure or shock horror whether they dare be like me and say he's innocent. Don't you think it's time that you stopped finding fault with my posts and stop making a big deal of where I MAY have gone wrong and just continue to keep agreeing with your own " team  ? "

If I want to believe that Neville phoned,then so be it,it's my opinion and has got nothing to do with you. If taped copies of the original tapes had been retained then the jury might have recognised the difference in the voices making those calls. Strange how Jeremy wouldn't have been worried nor bothered if they'd been retained ? In fact he was probably hopping mad that no copies had been made as conveniently enough the originals were destroyed a day before his first arrest ! If EP knew they were going to arrest Jeremy for questioning,why did they destroy the tapes within a day of knowing ?

I don't follow OS because in my opinion they've got a lot wrong,lawyers or not.
My opinions are my own and it's not up to you or anyone else to change them.
I don't tell anyone that they're wrong because that's THEIR opinion.

Lookout I recognize the amount of time you and Mike have spent in championing Jeremy's cause,even though I don't agree with your conclusions. Jeremy doesn't have two more loyal supporters.

[Jane]

Tell me why does it bother you SO much that I happen to post the wrong information ? Or is it because it's me ? I have noticed your attitude towards those who think JB is guilty against those who are either unsure or shock horror whether they dare be like me and say he's innocent. Don't you think it's time that you stopped finding fault with my posts and stop making a big deal of where I MAY have gone wrong and just continue to keep agreeing with your own " team  ? "

If I want to believe that Neville phoned,then so be it,it's my opinion and has got nothing to do with you. If taped copies of the original tapes had been retained then the jury might have recognised the difference in the voices making those calls. Strange how Jeremy wouldn't have been worried nor bothered if they'd been retained ? In fact he was probably hopping mad that no copies had been made as conveniently enough the originals were destroyed a day before his first arrest ! If EP knew they were going to arrest Jeremy for questioning,why did they destroy the tapes within a day of knowing ?

I don't follow OS because in my opinion they've got a lot wrong,lawyers or not.
My opinions are my own and it's not up to you or anyone else to change them.
I don't tell anyone that they're wrong because that's THEIR opinion.

Lookout, I think I'm probably more relieved to know you've got your own theories, than that you buy into some of what is said here. Personally I don't believe the taped copies thing any more than I believe some buffoon walked around the crime scene with a video camera -did he also do the commentary? But each to their own, eh?

[lookout]

Lookout I recognize the amount of time you and Mike have spent in championing Jeremy's cause,even though I don't agree with your conclusions. Jeremy doesn't have two more loyal supporters.

Looking back at some posts from December 2011 one poster in particular was speaking to a female juror during the early part of 2000 and she told the poster that had she known as much then as she knew presently she'd have given an innocent verdict.
The poster in question seemingly first supported innocence but ended up thinking guilty because I remember him when I first came onto the forum. He was rather hostile towards me too,probably because of my stance.

[Caroline]

Looking back at some posts from December 2011 one poster in particular was speaking to a female juror during the early part of 2000 and she told the poster that had she known as much then as she knew presently she'd have given an innocent verdict.
The poster in question seemingly first supported innocence but ended up thinking guilty because I remember him when I first came onto the forum. He was rather hostile towards me too,probably because of my stance.

Which poster?

[lookout]

Which poster?

Correction----------it's worse.The poster was " speaking about an article that he'd read in some newspaper " ( not speaking to her ) about what the female juror had said,so it was printed for all to see.
The poster in question was Tonyb.

[lookout]

Jeremy's latest blog is on Bambertweets.

[Caroline]

Correction----------it's worse.The poster was " speaking about an article that he'd read in some newspaper " ( not speaking to her ) about what the female juror had said,so it was printed for all to see.
The poster in question was Tonyb.

It was in a newspaper? Is there a link in the post to the article?

The story about Jeremy selling pictures of Sheila was in a newspaper for all to see - just thought I would point that out! 

[lookout]

It was in a newspaper? Is there a link in the post to the article?

The story about Jeremy selling pictures of Sheila was in a newspaper for all to see - just thought I would point that out! 

I've been looking for the damn post for the last hour,but I'll find it eventually. It was possibly in an Essex local Gazette-1991 I think. I can't ever imagine tonyb making things up.

[lookout]

I also found a post of vidvic's where he'd said there were 4 silencers-------so there you go.