raid team statements

[notsure]

Is it me or are the raid team statements like copies of eacothers.

[Jane]

Is it me or are the raid team statements like copies of eacothers.

Clones/copies/copies of copies? They were all there at the same time and all together. They may have sat round in a circle copying each others words.

[lookout]

Is it me or are the raid team statements like copies of eacothers.

They had to be, or else.

[notsure]

Thats dodgy, statements should be ' in your own words' and how you saw things. Oh well

[Jane]

Thats dodgy, statements should be ' in your own words' and how you saw things. Oh well

Well, it WAS a shared experience so it isn't surprising that their words have a "saminess" about them.

[scipio_usmc]

Thats dodgy, statements should be ' in your own words' and how you saw things. Oh well

Once again Jeremy supporters demonstrate they have no clue what a statement is.  Jeremy supporters want police to write up statements detailing every little thing they saw and observed no matter how meaningless so that if it is not mentioned at that time but mentioned later then they can accuse police of  making it up.  A statement is supposed to contain key relevant information that those in charge of the investigation should be aware of.  It identifies information and the person who has such information so that the investigators know who to follow up with and if there ever is a trial to know who will be able to testify to what. 

 

[notsure]

Oh shut up. A witness statement is a formal document of your OWN account of what took place and what you saw. It must not include opinions and must not be copied from someone elses .

Call yourself a lawyer. I know because i have written one.

[scipio_usmc]

Oh shut up. A witness statement is a formal document of your OWN account of what took place and what you saw. It must not include opinions and must not be copied from someone elses .

Call yourself a lawyer. I know because i have written one.

Police are allowed to put opinion in their statements. Police like others are allowed to confer with others before giving a statement.  Police can discuss what they did and observed before writing statements.  They are often asked to include specific things in their statements not to simply write up anythign and everything.

Police try to prevent suspects from conferring with their suspected partners in crime to try to prevent them from making up join stories perfectly but sometimes they make it up before police get to them. police ask people things verbally and they get them to write down the parts that are pertinent, they make sure the key things are included. They don't want them leaving out some key thing they said verbally.

Police give testimony in court and use their notes for recollection purposes their statements and notes are not substitutes. The defense gets to question any police officers they want to and to cross examine any the prosecution calls to testify.   

Statements exist for the benefit of those handling the investigation and those handling the decision to prosecute. 

[lookout]

I also know that the police will " add " or fabricate if you like as I too have signed a witness statement so much so that a couple of pages have ended up being a dozen !! No wonder the CPS threw it out. It WASN'T all mine and what did happen was that the criminal in question SAW on my statements where I lived,so how did that happen ? I had to sell up quickly and move,as according to what the police said at the time," yes you better had !" 

[notsure]

Police are allowed to put opinion in their statements. Police like others are allowed to confer with others before giving a statement.  Police can discuss what they did and observed before writing statements.  They are often asked to include specific things in their statements not to simply write up anythign and everything.

Police try to prevent suspects from conferring with their suspected partners in crime to try to prevent them from making up join stories perfectly but sometimes they make it up before police get to them. police ask people things verbally and they get them to write down the parts that are pertinent, they make sure the key things are included. They don't want them leaving out some key thing they said verbally.

Police give testimony in court and use their notes for recollection purposes their statements and notes are not substitutes. The defense gets to question any police officers they want to and to cross examine any the prosecution calls to testify.   

Statements exist for the benefit of those handling the investigation and those handling the decision to prosecute.

they still have to be in thier own words and thier own account, they cant just copy mr plods because it suits them.sorry but you are wrong

[Caroline]

they still have to be in thier own words and thier own account, they cant just copy mr plods because it suits them.sorry but you are wrong

I have noticed that the statements are very similar. However, perhaps there is a format that they follow which is responsible for the similarities?

[lookout]

I have noticed that the statements are very similar. However, perhaps there is a format that they follow which is responsible for the similarities?

There is------------in case anyone gets it wrong.

[Caroline]

There is------------in case anyone gets it wrong.

But you don't believe the police conspired to frame him so no sure what you're meaning is?

[lookout]

But you don't believe the police conspired to frame him so no sure what you're meaning is?

Conspiracy is too strong a word. I'd have said reneged.

[lookout]

Conspiracy is too strong a word. I'd have said reneged.

Like kids in an exam room copying from others that when the teacher comes to mark the work,it's practically word for word. Which doesn't say much for a police force.