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Re: shiela atending a party.
« Reply #45 on: October 03, 2015, 09:46:PM »
I think we are in great danger here of thinking we know the people involved when we don't. Much has been written about the relatives and most of it negative. Ask yourself what you would do if you KNEW one of your relatives was responsible for a similar crime and they were about to get off with it. Would you want them around you? Would you want them having a stake in a business you had worked hard for? Would you not feel sick to the stomach at the thought of them getting away with killing 5 people including two six year old boys? I know I would and I would make sure I did ALL I could to get them locked up.

I'd be like a bull to a rag! Nothing to do with the financial side, but just justice.

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« Reply #46 on: October 03, 2015, 09:52:PM »
I'd be like a bull to a rag! Nothing to do with the financial side, but just justice.

How would you EVER trust someone like that, knowing what they had done? If you upset them at work you'd have to sleep with one eye open!!
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« Reply #47 on: October 03, 2015, 09:59:PM »
How would you EVER trust someone like that, knowing what they had done? If you upset them at work you'd have to sleep with one eye open!!
Well you couldn't could you which is the question about JM.... how much did she know and if she knew how could she stay with him. Apart from anything it would be terrifying.
There's no question in my mind, if you believed someone had committed one murder never mind 5 it would be horrifying and they definitely would need locking up.
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« Reply #48 on: October 03, 2015, 10:24:PM »
Well you couldn't could you which is the question about JM.... how much did she know and if she knew how could she stay with him. Apart from anything it would be terrifying.
There's no question in my mind, if you believed someone had committed one murder never mind 5 it would be horrifying and they definitely would need locking up.

Yes, Julie was certainly unique. Personally, if someone kept telling me they were thinking of killing their family, I would drop them like a ton of XXXX. If their family ended up dead I'd report them as soon as the news broke. She had plenty of opportunity to do so and I don't understand why she left it until after he  made it clear, that the only trip she would be getting down the aisle, was when she supported his fake grief at the family funerals. He didn't need her after that.
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« Reply #49 on: October 03, 2015, 10:26:PM »
Yes, Julie was certainly unique. Personally, if someone kept telling me they were thinking of killing their family, I would drop them like a ton of XXXX. If their family ended up dead I'd report them as soon as the news broke. She had plenty of opportunity to do so and I don't understand why she left it until after he  made it clear, that the only trip she would be getting down the aisle, was when she supported his fake grief at the family funerals. He didn't need her after that.
You know the saying 'it takes one to know one'..... makes you wonder. :-\

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« Reply #50 on: October 03, 2015, 10:42:PM »
You know the saying 'it takes one to know one'..... makes you wonder. :-\

Vultures of a feather flock together?  ;D ;D
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Re: shiela atending a party.
« Reply #51 on: October 03, 2015, 10:48:PM »
Vultures of a feather flock together?  ;D ;D
If the cap fits  ;D

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« Reply #52 on: October 04, 2015, 10:10:AM »
I think we are in great danger here of thinking we know the people involved when we don't. Much has been written about the relatives and most of it negative. Ask yourself what you would do if you KNEW one of your relatives was responsible for a similar crime and they were about to get off with it. Would you want them around you? Would you want them having a stake in a business you had worked hard for? Would you not feel sick to the stomach at the thought of them getting away with killing 5 people including two six year old boys? I know I would and I would make sure I did ALL I could to get them locked up.






This sort of thing goes on a lot of the time-------------without a murder having been committed. Especially when someone dies intestate.

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« Reply #53 on: October 04, 2015, 10:41:AM »





This sort of thing goes on a lot of the time-------------without a murder having been committed. Especially when someone dies intestate.

But in this instance murder was committed - 5 of them. If I were AE, I wouldn't have been able to be in the same room as Jeremy if I thought he's killed the whole family and there is no way I could let it drop until he was convicted.
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« Reply #54 on: October 04, 2015, 11:21:AM »
But in this instance murder was committed - 5 of them. If I were AE, I wouldn't have been able to be in the same room as Jeremy if I thought he's killed the whole family and there is no way I could let it drop until he was convicted.






Nor could I blame someone on a whim either.

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« Reply #55 on: October 04, 2015, 11:35:AM »
But in this instance murder was committed - 5 of them. If I were AE, I wouldn't have been able to be in the same room as Jeremy if I thought he's killed the whole family and there is no way I could let it drop until he was convicted.

Caroline, that post stirred up an uncomfortable memory. I recall that feeling of being suspicious but not being able to prove anything. I also recall feeling SO physically sick when I was near the person concerned -they knew I was suspicious but knew I couldn't do anything so, effectively, they were laughing at me-  I couldn't be in the same room with them.

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« Reply #56 on: October 04, 2015, 11:47:AM »





Nor could I blame someone on a whim either.

Nor could I and they didn't blame him on a whim, they blamed him because they knew he was talking BS and why would he do that if he wasn't making excuses?
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« Reply #57 on: October 04, 2015, 11:54:AM »
Caroline, that post stirred up an uncomfortable memory. I recall that feeling of being suspicious but not being able to prove anything. I also recall feeling SO physically sick when I was near the person concerned -they knew I was suspicious but knew I couldn't do anything so, effectively, they were laughing at me-  I couldn't be in the same room with them.

Exactly, it isn't just a case of someone you may not like inheriting a lot of money and part of a business you have also investments in - you would have to interact with someone you believed to be a murderer. Someone capable of killing his own family including two children. If you knew he wasn't keen on you, would you not have cause for concern?
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Re: shiela atending a party.
« Reply #58 on: October 04, 2015, 12:00:PM »
Nor could I and they didn't blame him on a whim, they blamed him because they knew he was talking BS and why would he do that if he wasn't making excuses?






How did they know he was talking BS ? Let's face it,we ALL hear what we want to hear if it suits us at the time.

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« Reply #59 on: October 04, 2015, 12:07:PM »
Exactly, it isn't just a case of someone you may not like inheriting a lot of money and part of a business you have also investments in - you would have to interact with someone you believed to be a murderer. Someone capable of killing his own family including two children. If you knew he wasn't keen on you, would you not have cause for concern?

It's a shame that there are two issues going on here. There's the major one of the murders but there's also the issue of the probability, that regarding the business, Ann and Jeremy were singing from very different hymn sheets. I imagine, if Jeremy hadn't sold it over their heads, Ann would have been the one doing all the work whilst Jeremy creamed off the profits. I've always defended the rights of adopted children to inherit in the same way as biological children, but I can see very clearly, in this case, Jeremy inheriting COULD have seen him destroy the life's hard work of the entire family.