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1. Before the the Firearms Group entered WHF, Collins and Delgado looked through the kitchen window. Collins reports by radio that two bodies, one female and one male, have been seen in the kitchen. Both appeared to be dead.

2. Collins, Delgado and others briefly enter the kitchen and confirm the two bodies by radio and telephone. They then continue to search the much of the downstairs and the back of the house upstairs.

3. At some point, Sheila recovers consciousness, and leaving the kitchen and through the main hallway she ascends the main staircase to the master bedroom and shoots herself with the rifle which WPC Jeapes and PC Brown had seen leaning against the window.

4. To conceal their incompetence, TFG officers, probably in collusion with Inspector Montgomery and Ps Adams, decide to 'cover up' that SC had first been seen in the kitchen. At this stage, it was only a mild manipulation of the truth; she had, as they announced publicly, committed suicide upstairs, in the main bedroom.

5. Accordingly, Collins and Delgado omit from their statements any reference to looking through the kitchen window and seeing SC's body there; only one body, NB's, was in the kitchen and they first saw that after they had entered WHF.

6. All went well; the inquest ruled that SC had killed her parents and two sons and then committed suicide.

7. As August advanced, the police found themselves facing increasing difficulties. JB's relatives, anxious over issues of inheritance, were determined to establish his guilt and began to demand a full murder investigation.

Detective Chief Inspector 'Taff Jones' knew that JB was innocent but to explain why he was so sure he would have to admit that SC was alive when the police entered WHF and that the police had concealed this. He would also have been concerned that information about the contamination of the crime scene by more officers being drafted in for training exercises using the bodies in situ was going to become public making a mockery of crime scene preservation and showing utter disrespect for Jeremy Bamber's dead family.

8. 'Taff Jones' is delighted to be removed from heading the investigation. He is replaced by Ainsley, who had the reputation of being tough and ruthless. These qualities are required to prevent the police being exposed for concealing the truth about S C.

i. First line of defence: all records of police radio and telephone communications indicating that SC was still alive when the police entered WHF to be withheld from the defence.

ii. Second line of defence: in case JB's defence got wind of any of these radio or telephone messages, select TFG statements to mention mistaking NB's body for a woman.

9. At least eight or nine, perhaps a dozen or so, Essex Police officers know the truth about WHF and that JB did not murder SC. We are told they were frightened by Andrew Hunter’s revelations in the House of Commons in 2005 but they are more frightened of losing their police pensions or even imprisonment. One has 'come out' over an important detail (the issue of silencers) but will say no more. Another has allegedly confessed to a third party that he feels dreadful guilt about JB's imprisonment.

All of the above is supported by documentary evidence.
« Last Edit: October 06, 2015, 07:57:PM by mike tesko »
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1. Before the the Firearms Group entered WHF, Collins and Delgado looked through the kitchen window. Collins reports by radio that two bodies, one female and one male, have been seen in the kitchen. Both appeared to be dead.

This is not true, two bodies were only found 'AFTER' entry had been gained to the main kitchen, the statements of Collins and Delgado, describe looking through a kitchen window, and only seeing one body, which they both describe as the body of a female (behind the door)...
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1. Before the the Firearms Group entered WHF, Collins and Delgado looked through the kitchen window. Collins reports by radio that two bodies, one female and one male, have been seen in the kitchen. Both appeared to be dead.

This is not true, two bodies were only found 'AFTER' entry had been gained to the main kitchen, the statements of Collins and Delgado, describe looking through a kitchen window, and only seeing one body, which they both describe as the body of a female (behind the door)...

Indeed it's not true you made up this nonsense.  Collins saw one body when he looked through the kitchen window.  No one saw any bodies through the laundry window. Most people don't even bother to read your nonsense anymore let alone bother to refute it you are looked at as the crazy uncle in the attic no one wants to talk about.  The reputation you established for yourself is not the one you set out to establish.YOu are wasting your time pressing forward nonetheless.
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According to Murder Casebook there had also been a struggle in the bedroom and Sheila had been found lying on her back near Mrs Bamber's bedroom window. No mention of her head being contorted against the bedside cupboard.

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According to Murder Casebook there had also been a struggle in the bedroom and Sheila had been found lying on her back near Mrs Bamber's bedroom window. No mention of her head being contorted against the bedside cupboard.

Who supposedly found her by the window?  The police all say she was hidden by the bed thus police who did not walk to the other side of the bed didn't even see Sheila's body so were unable to even provide details of how her body was positioned.

Her pooled blood was on the other side of the bed not near the window.

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According to Murder Casebook there had also been a struggle in the bedroom and Sheila had been found lying on her back near Mrs Bamber's bedroom window. No mention of her head being contorted against the bedside cupboard.

Lookout, I imagine every book ever written/documentary ever shown is going to stage it differently. I rather think you COULD be picking out the one that most directs the onus away from Jeremy.

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According to Murder Casebook there had also been a struggle in the bedroom and Sheila had been found lying on her back near Mrs Bamber's bedroom window. No mention of her head being contorted against the bedside cupboard.

I don't think 'Murder Casebook' (bought the Bamber one from ebay) is that heavy on 'facts' Lookout.
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I don't think 'Murder Casebook' (bought the Bamber one from ebay) is that heavy on 'facts' Lookout.






I've had it ages and never bothered reading it until today,but it's a real cobbled up affair.  ::)

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I suppose the two bodies in the kitchen claim has to be justified.

So Sheila shot herself upstairs. Then went downstairs to the kitchen. Where she stayed for several hours. Leaving the gun upstairs. Mmm.

The police entering WHF makes Sheila regain  conciousness. Mmm. 

Sheila goes upstairs, without being seen. Then shoots herself again. Mmm.

'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Why would Sheila shoot herself once upstairs, then go to the kitchen ? Did she want a cheese and pickle sandwich ?

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I suppose the two bodies in the kitchen claim has to be justified.

So Sheila shot herself upstairs. Then went downstairs to the kitchen. Where she stayed for several hours. Leaving the gun upstairs. Mmm.

The police entering WHF makes Sheila regain  conciousness. Mmm. 

Sheila goes upstairs, without being seen. Then shoots herself again. Mmm.


If they did see Shelia downstairs that night the only possibility is that she had not shot herself at all and was still unharmed, then went upstairs to shoot herself

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I've had it ages and never bothered reading it until today,but it's a real cobbled up affair.  ::)

Yes, I thought because it was written 'nearer' time time of the murders, there might be something in it that had been forgotten. There weren't even any different pictures!!  ???
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If they did see Shelia downstairs that night the only possibility is that she had not shot herself at all and was still unharmed, then went upstairs to shoot herself

It's tough to keep 'the two bodies in the kitchen' claim credible, when Sheila was found on the far side of the upstairs bedroom.

Sheila suddenly deciding to go upstairs and kill herself after the raid team had entered WHF, without being seen, is preposterous.
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It's tough to keep 'the two bodies in the kitchen' claim credible, when Sheila was found on the far side of the upstairs bedroom.

Sheila suddenly deciding to go upstairs and kill herself after the raid team had entered WHF, without being seen, is preposterous.

You are aware of the different staircases aren't you?

Anyway it is Suggested that is was happened that is made clear - because obviously they don't know.

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The police account, where an operative miles away wrote down there was one male and one female in the kitchen, after the police mistook Neville for a female, for a few seconds is realistic.
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