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Offline maggie

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Re: are ann eatons statments truthull or not.
« Reply #45 on: September 30, 2015, 05:50:PM »
I'm not sure he would be broke. Over £436,000 is a lot of money now for a single man, let alone in 1985.

He loved the good things in life so much, he would have been terrified of losing it all. He killed everyone so he could stop working. For ever.

So would have partied but would have budgeted for it to last.

He may have gone into business and lost it. Neville said he had no business sense. I believe Bamber spoke to Julie about opening a wine bar.
Not much these days, wouldn't even buy him much of a property in London.

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« Reply #46 on: September 30, 2015, 05:53:PM »
Not much these days, wouldn't even buy him much of a property in London.

if it were wisely invested he would be a multi millionaire today. But he was spending money like water not looking to invest wisely. When your goal is to look like a big shot you spend every dime then your  "friends" who were helping you spend your money flee.
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« Reply #47 on: September 30, 2015, 05:53:PM »
Cock appointed Boutflour in charge because Jeremy didn't want the job he was too busy living in London and having fun. If he wanted to run it he could have had Cock pick him.  It is obvious he had no interest in running things.

Not because he was on valium and drugs then ? Even Colin went away to escape the Press . And you would think if he was guilty he would have done everything to appear to be the perfect grieving son - even just for a few weeks. Perhaps his behaviour shows lack of respect but it does not prove he was a murderer .

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« Reply #48 on: September 30, 2015, 05:53:PM »
Didn't he already have his cottage and Sheila's flat ?
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« Reply #49 on: September 30, 2015, 05:59:PM »
Didn't he already have his cottage and Sheila's flat ?

what are you asking - be clearer - none of the estate had been settled.  There were mortgages  mortgages to be paid off on the flat etc . It takes months to sort out probate - especially with the alleged land deals and loans involved .

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« Reply #50 on: September 30, 2015, 06:02:PM »
what are you asking - be clearer - none of the estate had been settled.  There were mortgages  mortgages to be paid off on the flat etc . It takes months to sort out probate - especially with the alleged land deals and loans involved .

The estate was responsible for paying the mortgages.  He took physical possession of the flat and enjoyed its use though he didn't have official title to it. 
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« Reply #51 on: September 30, 2015, 06:04:PM »
I don't believe he would be daft enough to blow all the money.

He would have just continued doing what he was doing. Travelling, partying and eating in nice places. He would have been content with that. Better than 14 hour work days anyway.

Some lottery winners go out and blow it on buying dozens of cars, or hard drugs. But not Bamber.
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« Reply #52 on: September 30, 2015, 06:08:PM »
I don't believe he would be daft enough to blow all the money.

He would have just continued doing what he was doing. Travelling, partying and eating in nice places. He would have been content with that. Better than 14 hour work days anyway.

Some lottery winners go out and blow it on buying dozens of cars, or hard drugs. But not Bamber.

Spending all your money on expensive hotels, traveling and partying is blowing all your money!
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« Reply #53 on: September 30, 2015, 06:09:PM »
what are you asking - be clearer - none of the estate had been settled.  There were mortgages  mortgages to be paid off on the flat etc . It takes months to sort out probate - especially with the alleged land deals and loans involved .

Be clearer. What are you going on about again ?

It was a simple 9 word question.

He inherited the use of Sheila's flat and was already living in a cottage.

He could also always stay at WHF. Even if he forgot his key.
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« Reply #54 on: September 30, 2015, 06:09:PM »
The estate was responsible for paying the mortgages.  He took physical possession of the flat and enjoyed its use though he didn't have official title to it.

exactly. That's what I was saying he did not own it.

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« Reply #55 on: September 30, 2015, 06:13:PM »
Be clearer. What are you going on about again ?

It was a simple 9 word question.

He inherited the use of Sheila's flat and was already living in a cottage.

He could also always stay at WHF. Even if he forgot his key.

But he did not own them at that point - Probate would take a long time to sort out. I would imagine the lease on WHF would have been terminated technically on the Bambers death so the trustees could have refused to let him stay in the house if they wanted to. There was a web to untangle before he would have technically inherited .

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« Reply #56 on: September 30, 2015, 06:15:PM »
Spending all your money on expensive hotels, traveling and partying is blowing all your money!

The judge said the final amount Bamber would have got would have been well over £436,000. Which is well over 1 million in today's money.

Today, if he spent £40,000 a year, that would last over 25 years. For a single man today, with no ties or mortgage, £40,000 is enough to party and travel. 
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« Reply #57 on: September 30, 2015, 06:16:PM »
Not because he was on valium and drugs then ? Even Colin went away to escape the Press . And you would think if he was guilty he would have done everything to appear to be the perfect grieving son - even just for a few weeks. Perhaps his behaviour shows lack of respect but it does not prove he was a murderer .

He would have needed a course a RADA to maintain the depiction of someone experiencing grief. Part of the problem may have been that because he didn't feel grief he couldn't show it. He didn't appear to try to reach out to the wider family. He didn't make much effort to keep them in the loop. Pam was his nearest living relative. She'd lost her only sister. He seems not to have given her his support, NOR sought hers. His one aim appeared to be to get as much ready cash as quickly as possible and use it to party.

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« Reply #58 on: September 30, 2015, 06:34:PM »
He would have needed a course a RADA to maintain the depiction of someone experiencing grief. Part of the problem may have been that because he didn't feel grief he couldn't show it. He didn't appear to try to reach out to the wider family. He didn't make much effort to keep them in the loop. Pam was his nearest living relative. She'd lost her only sister. He seems not to have given her his support, NOR sought hers. His one aim appeared to be to get as much ready cash as quickly as possible and use it to party.






Jane,I'm afraid the " wider family " didn't want him. They may have looked as though they were supporting him but any show of friendliness would have gone against the grain for what was on their minds. It was they who didn't want any closeness as it would have shown a " two-facedness " that wouldn't have gone down too well over the coming months.
None of them went running to him.
Pam had asked how he was when he was in prison and that didn't go down well either. It's plain to see that there was a hostility between families even before the tragedy.

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« Reply #59 on: September 30, 2015, 06:47:PM »





Jane,I'm afraid the " wider family " didn't want him. They may have looked as though they were supporting him but any show of friendliness would have gone against the grain for what was on their minds. It was they who didn't want any closeness as it would have shown a " two-facedness " that wouldn't have gone down too well over the coming months.
None of them went running to him.
Pam had asked how he was when he was in prison and that didn't go down well either. It's plain to see that there was a hostility between families even before the tragedy.

Lookout, whilst I'm very aware that the reading of a will can tear families apart, it's been my experience that in the time between the death(s) and the funeral(s) even the most fractured families come together. It sounds as if Pam genuinely cared but there are no reports of him showing similar to her.