Sheila's body on far side of bed, fact recorded in 'Bob' Millers Pocketbook...

[scipio_usmc]

There is no mention at all  of Sheila's body being on the floor at 8.44hrs, that morning, when Miller drafted up the notes in his own pocketbook, which he completed that same day...

Miller's words clearly suggest she was on the floor on the other side of the bed.  Like the other officers, he looked at the crime scene photos showing her on the floor and he agreed the photos represented what he saw.  You have zilch to support her being in the bed.  You would need to verbally question Miller and get him to state he saw her on the bed in order to have evidence that is what he saw. 

This is precisely why your lies are all worthless to Jeremy.  Courts hear live witness testimony and Miller if called would state he saw her on the floor.  That being the case the defense lawyers don't waste their times with this nonsense.

[mike tesko]

By this stage, DC Clarke, and DS Jones had not yet arrived at the scene or seen Sheila's body in the main bedroom. However, before leaving the scene and going along with Jeremy to his cottage at 9 Head Street, Goldhanger, both had popped thier heads into the main bedroom, and seen Sheila's body on the bed. Not only had they seen Sheila's body on the bed, but they also saw June Bambers body on the bed. They saw at that stage, the rifle laying on the bed between both bodies, and they saw that the bible had been placed on top of Sheila Caffells chest. When both arrived at Jeremys cottage, they told AE what they had both seen for themselves before leaving the scene at whf...

[mike tesko]

Since Sheila's body has been photographed on the bed, where Miller states he saw her body, at a time when the rifle was not on her body but rather laid by her right side, and she only had one gunshot wound in her neck at that (08.44hrs) stage, Miller would be hard pressed to deny that Sheila's body had been on the bed, prior to police moving her body onto the floor. It would be very interesting to get Miller in the witness box, since we now know he was the co-ordinating officer, who dotted all the i's, and crossed all the t's in everybody elses witness statements. He had involvement in the dodgy silencer evidence, and he had involvement in adding four additional bullet cases to the main bedroom scene, so if Miller was ever put into the witness box defence counsel would have a field day tying him in knots, and thus exposing the truth about what really happened once firearms officers went into the farmhouse...

Bring it on...

[mike tesko]

Miller confirms that at 8.44hrs, that morning there was no rifle resting on top of Sheila's body, he confirms it was by her right side, and he confirms that it appears she only had a gunshot wound to her neck, not two gunshots to her neck, at that stage (8.44hrs)...

At about 09.00hrs, PS Adams entered the main bedroom, when interviewed by COLP in 1991, he told them that he had no recollection of the rifle being on Sheila Caffells body at that time...

[mike tesko]

Similarly, when the Coroners officer, PC Wright was spoken to by the COLP investigators, at a time when he was at peril of being prosecuted, or disciplined, if it was determined he had told lies to them, Wright told the COLP investigators that at about 9.30hrs when he saw Sheila's body, the rifle had been removed from her body by that stage, however, he stated that there were two gunshot wounds in her neck at that stage...

[scipio_usmc]

At about 09.00hrs, PS Adams entered the main bedroom, when interviewed by COLP in 1991, he told them that he had no recollection of the rifle being on Sheila Caffells body at that time...

He said he had no recollection of where the gun was. It was 6 years later he was lucky he remembered anything.

[mike tesko]

It is all a question of timing and sequence...

At 7.37hrs, Sheila is clearly the female, described as being dead downstairs in the main kitchen, along with Ralph Bamber. His death is described as a murder, and Sheila's demise described as a suicide. Her body was not upstairs by 8.10hrs, but it ended up there on the bed by 8.30hrs. Her body was still on the bed when Craig and Miller viewed her body there at 8.44hrs. After this came a stream of independant witnesses, PS Adams, PC Wright, DS Jones and DC Clark, all giving a similar account. By 10.00hrs, SOCO took control of the farmhouse, and PC Bird started to take photographs - 8 such photographs were taken around the time that Sheila's body which was on the bed with only a single gunshot to her neck, ended up on the bedroom floor with two gunshots to her neck...

[mike tesko]

If all of this is true, and I am saying it is all true, then how did Sheila's body end up on the bedroom floor, with a second shot in her neck, and the rifle end up on top of her body? Why did Essex police heirachy cut out 8 consecutive negatives at the point where PC Bird had started to photograph the position of Sheila's body on the bed, and the floor in the recovery position? Don't you dare try and suggest that Jeremy Bamber shot and killed his sister, he did not, the police did...

[scipio_usmc]

It is all a question of timing and sequence...

At 7.37hrs, Sheila is clearly the female, described as being dead downstairs in the main kitchen, along with Ralph Bamber. His death is described as a murder, and Sheila's demise described as a suicide. Her body was not upstairs by 8.10hrs, but it ended up there on the bed by 8.30hrs. Her body was still on the bed when Craig and Miller viewed her body there at 8.44hrs. After this came a stream of independant witnesses, PS Adams, PC Wright, DS Jones and DC Clark, all giving a similar account. By 10.00hrs, SOCO took control of the farmhouse, and PC Bird started to take photographs - 8 such photographs were taken around the time that Sheila's body which was on the bed with only a single gunshot to her neck, ended up on the bedroom floor with two gunshots to her neck...

The only body observed in the kitchen was Nevill's.  The person who wrote the log was in error in claiming a female body was found in the kitchen.  The person who wrote the log witnessed nothing and simple made an error.  Trying to pretend that error trumps the statements of the witnesses and blood evidence in the bedroom is a waste of time.

[mike tesko]

Now, it is several years since Jeremy told me a startling piece of information, which he says I have got confirmation of somewhere in my files. He told me that none of the police officers who were interviewed as part of the COLP investigation, only agreed to do so on the proviso that none of them would face prosecution, or disciplinary charges, or be put at risk of losing pension rights.  In return, they would all co-operate, and give a true account of what had really taken place. This in fact is what happened. The COLP investigators then drafted up mock statements giving untrue accounts, enabling the perpetrators to get away without fear of retribution...

[mike tesko]

Now, it is several years since Jeremy told me a startling piece of information, which he says I have got confirmation of somewhere in my files. He told me that none of the police officers who were interviewed as part of the COLP investigation, only agreed to do so on the proviso that none of them would face prosecution, or disciplinary charges, or be put at risk of losing pension rights.  In return, they would all co-operate, and give a true account of what had really taken place. This in fact is what happened. The COLP investigators then drafted up mock statements giving untrue accounts, enabling the perpetrators to get away without fear of retribution...

The true unedited accounts of what really took place are currently withheld under pii...

[lookout]

'Stangle marks' as though somebody tried to throttle her...

Well I can think of one person who would have attempted that and it wasn't Jeremy. Makes you wonder where the black eye came from.
This " row " had spilled over from a day or two before,I reckon.

[mike tesko]

Now, it is several years since Jeremy told me a startling piece of information, which he says I have got confirmation of somewhere in my files. He told me that none of the police officers who were interviewed as part of the COLP investigation, only agreed to do so on the proviso that none of them would face prosecution, or disciplinary charges, or be put at risk of losing pension rights.  In return, they would all co-operate, and give a true account of what had really taken place. This in fact is what happened. The COLP investigators then drafted up mock statements giving untrue accounts, enabling the perpetrators to get away without fear of retribution...

This is the chief reason why there are so many conflicting versions of who did what, where bodies were originally found, or moved from, and ended up at. This is the reason why there are so many as yet unanswered questions about why the ballistic evidence is so dodgy...

[lookout]

Well I can think of one person who would have attempted that and it wasn't Jeremy. Makes you wonder where the black eye came from.
This " row " had spilled over from a day or two before,I reckon.

I wonder if these marks around the neck were measured in any way such as the circumference of a hand impression or finger size/s ?  I'm being silly for wondering that aren't I ? As if !!

[mike tesko]

I wonder if these marks around the neck were measured in any way such as the circumference of a hand impression or finger size/s ?  I'm being silly for wondering that aren't I ? As if !!

Look like cound be finger marks, and or some sort of ligature...