Bamber's 1985 claim that Sheila committed child abuse:

[Jane]

but we all know they somtimes get it wrong so the fact they closed the case doesnt necasrly mean a lot.


of somtimes they get it wrong the other way and wrongly acuse people.

Yes, and the very same people who condemn them for getting it wrong when it involves a child, will scream JUST as loudly when it involves adults who are subsequently found to be innocent.

[nugnug]

socail services arnt investigating in view to proscuting anybody just weather the child is in danger as the children were in colins care and shiela saw under the supervision of her parents they would of closed the case.

[nugnug]

Yes, and the very same people who condemn them for getting it wrong when it involves a child, will scream JUST as loudly when it involves adults who are subsequently found to be innocent.

im not saying its easy being a socail worker im just pointing out they make mistakes somtimes.

and the facted they investigated doesnt mean guilt and they fact they droped it doesnt mean innocent.

[lookout]

The ONLY person who could have stopped this from happening was Julie Mugford !!! Nobody else.

[Jane]

im not saying its easy being a socail worker im just pointing out they make mistakes somtimes.

and the facted they investigated doesnt mean guilt and they fact they droped it doesnt mean innocent.

In other words, damned if they do and damned if they don't. No wonder there's a shortage of those wanting to do social work.

[lookout]

In other words, damned if they do and damned if they don't. No wonder there's a shortage of those wanting to do social work.

They want to try getting it right the first time.

[Jane]

The ONLY person who could have stopped this from happening was Julie Mugford !!! Nobody else.

Actually, in reality, she only had a VERY small window of opportunity. The police can't take action until a crime is committed. The threat doesn't constitute a crime. More interesting is what you're thinking she may have been able to stop, Lookout

[nugnug]

In other words, damned if they do and damned if they don't. No wonder there's a shortage of those wanting to do social work.

ive just pointed out a fact they get wrong somtimes evrbodys knows that whats the problem.

[guest154]

The ONLY person who could have stopped this from happening was Julie Mugford !!! Nobody else.

Or Jeremy.

ive just pointed out a fact they get wrong somtimes evrbodys knows that whats the peoblem.

Nothing to show they did in this case. Saying they have got it wrong before doesn't mean that they did this time, you need evidence to prove they got it wrong.  People have killed for money before, if I was to repeat that over and over wouldn't convince people that Jeremy did.

[Jane]

They want to try getting it right the first time.

Don't you think they do? Do you imagine they think it's fun when a tragedy happens? Personally, I think they do their best with limited resources and often inexperienced staff, many of whom are left traumatized by what they can't do.

[lookout]

Actually, in reality, she only had a VERY small window of opportunity. The police can't take action until a crime is committed. The threat doesn't constitute a crime. More interesting is what you're thinking she may have been able to stop, Lookout

Jeremy had allegedly told her well in advance, his intentions for God's sake. How much more hinting does one need ? Even down to allegedly telling of his plans. Plus he'd allegedly told RWB. JB might as well have gone through the village with a megaphone.

[guest154]

Don't you think they do? Do you imagine they think it's fun when a tragedy happens? Personally, I think they do their best with limited resources and often inexperienced staff, many of whom are left traumatized by what they can't do.

It's a thankless job, Apes. We only hear about the cases where they get it wrong, but it's ignored and not spoken about the countless of children they actually help.

[lookout]

It wouldn't be thankless if the right people were targeted.

[nugnug]

the fact they close doesnt necarsrly mean they think your innocent it might just mean they think the child is no further danger of abuse.

[guest154]

It wouldn't be thankless if the right people were targeted.

Hard to know who the right people are until you target them. Social services work alot from reports from the general public.