The 3am telephone call. What was said ?

[Caroline]

I'll have to look Mike.Was it West ? I've forgotten,but one question was why CA05 and CA07 sent if there was only one call supposedly made ?

Because Bonnett sent CA07 and West sent CA05,

[mike tesko]

Details at REPLY 553 will be completed as a  "work in progress" project, as and when information comes to light...

[mike tesko]

The first group of firearm officers arrived at the scene, at 05.00hrs, hence why deployment and arrival of vehicles at the scene recorded in the Ralph Bamber (Bonnet) log, 03.26hrs, finish with reference to the arrival at the scene of the occupants of Qk50, QK26, and Q25, at 04.58hrs. Since, once armed officers arrive at the scene they are no longer under the direct control of the force control room, but take orders from'THE TERRITORIAL SUPERVISOR'...

[mike tesko]

The first group of firearm officers arrived at the scene, at 05.00hrs, hence why deployment and arrival of vehicles at the scene recorded in the Ralph Bamber (Bonnet) log, 03.26hrs, finish with reference to the arrival at the scene of the occupants of Qk50, QK26, and Q25, at 04.58hrs. Since, once armed officers arrive at the scene they are no longer under the direct control of the force control room, but take orders from'THE TERRITORIAL SUPERVISOR'...

We have yet to see any report, or any witness statement, or any records kept by 'THE TERRITORIAL SUPERVISOR', at the scene, or elsewhere, kept by him regarding the events which unfolded at whf once the first group of firearm officers arrived at the scene from 05.00hrs, onward...

[mike tesko]

We have yet to see any report, or any witness statement, or any records kept by 'THE TERRITORIAL SUPERVISOR', at the scene, or elsewhere, kept by him regarding the events which unfolded at whf once the first group of firearm officers arrived at the scene from 05.00hrs, onward...

'THE TERRITORIAL SUPERVISOR' (TTS) had control of the team of firearm officers who arrived at the scene, under the leadership of PS Adams. It was the 'TTS' responsibility to keep full and proper records of events which unfolded at the scene from 05.00hrs, onward, like when firearm officers at the scene were engaged in a conversation with someone inside the farmhouse...

[mike tesko]

On the front page of the PC Wests log (03.36hrs), 03.31hrs, is recorded, 'PTO'...

[mike tesko]

On the front page of the PC Wests log (03.36hrs), 03.31hrs, is recorded, 'PTO'...

Written on the reverse of PC Wests log (03.36hrs), 03.31hrs, are messages relayed from the scene by the control car, CA07, yet all other messages from the same source, are recorded on official 'WIRELESS MESSAGE LOG' documents. Some years ago, Jeremy himself was playing merry hell about this, claiming that the content of the original messages passed from the scene by CA07, were recorded on an official wireless message log kept and recorded in the communications room, otherwise known as the information room, except for the messages recorded on the reverse of PC Wests phone log, completed in the control room...

[mike tesko]

Written on the reverse of PC Wests log (03.36hrs), 03.31hrs, are messages relayed from the scene by the control car, CA07, yet all other messages from the same source, are recorded on official 'WIRELESS MESSAGE LOG' documents. Some years ago, Jeremy himself was playing merry hell about this, claiming that the content of the original messages passed from the scene by CA07, were recorded on an official wireless message log kept and recorded in the communications room, otherwise known as the information room, except for the messages recorded on the reverse of PC Wests phone log, completed in the control room...

Jeremy was wondering what has happened to the original messages written up on the original page 1 of the wireless message log, before the contents were re-written on the reverse of Wests log...?

[scipio_usmc]

I'll have to look Mike.Was it West ? I've forgotten,but one question was why CA05 and CA07 sent if there was only one call supposedly made ?

Because it is common practice to send backup instead of a single unit when there is a claim of firearms. The back up unit took a while to leave the station and didn't arrive until substantially later than CA7. 

[mike tesko]

Jeremy Bamber call log, reveals that as a result of PC West recieving his call from Jeremy, the occupants of CA05 (03.36hrs) got deployed to the scene, not the occupants of CA07...

Contents of two seperate witness statements, made in his name, give two conflicting times he recieved the call from Jeremy Bamber, in his 9th August 1985, statement, he claims the time of this call occurred at 03.26hrs, yet in his other witness statement, dated, 13th September 1985, he changes the timing of the Jeremy Bamber call, back to 03.36hrs (same time recorded on the log of events, recorded temporaneously, on the morning in question)...

So which version, is true?

[mike tesko]

PC West has not told the truth, he has given three different versions (above) of what Jeremy Bamber told him during that (03.36hrs), 03.31hrs, distress call

[mike tesko]

PC West has not told the truth, he has given three different versions (above) of what Jeremy Bamber told him during that (03.36hrs), 03.31hrs, distress call

During the trial he testified, evidence in chief, and was also cross examined:-

[mike tesko]

Bearing in mind, what PC West says in the two witness statements, and during his court testimony (above), he could only have relayed what Jeremy said to him, as per the contents of his witness statements to Malcolm Bonnet in the information room, which does not correspond with the contents of the Bonnet phone log (03.26hrs)...

[mike tesko]

There is something seriously wrong with PC Wests testimony, and witness statements regarding this matter...

[mike tesko]

There is something seriously wrong with PC Wests testimony, and witness statements regarding this matter...

According to PC West, after he had spoken to the information room, he contacted Witham police station control room by police radio and relayed to them what Jeremy Bamber had in fact told him minutes beforehand, yet there is no record on / in the West log (03.36hrs), 03.31hrs, that West had made such a radio message to Witham police station control room, or who he spoke to there, or what he told them. Instead, we are given two logs to take into consideration, the PC West log (03.36hrs), 03.31hrs, and the Malcolm Bonnet log (03.26hrs), which contain conflicting and contradictory accounts. We do not have the Witham police station information room log, giving details of what PC West spoke to them about, after West had already spoken to the information room at Chelmsford police station (Malcolm Bonnet), and PC West says in his testimony, that a police unit from Witham had been deployed to the incident, which in the grand scheme of things turns out to be the occupants of CA07, yet PC West had already deployed the occupants of CA05 to the scene, which because of the time CA05 had been deployed (03.31hrs), must have already been done, prior to PC West contacting the Chelmsford police station information room, to find out which police station dealt with the area where whf was located. Now, something is very wrong here, wrong because in the grand scheme of things, the occupants of CA05 were deployed to the scene (03.31hrs), before the occupants of CA07 were eventually deployed to the same incident at 03.35hrs. PC West deployed the occupants of CA05, and the information room at Witham police station, deployed the occupants of CA07...

Details of the deployment of the occupants of CA07 by the information room at Witham police station, is recorded in the Bonnet log (03.26hrs) written up in the information room at Chelmsford police station, where it is recorded that CA07 was deployed at 03.35hrs, arriving at the scene at 03.48hrs. Yet, there is no mention at all in the Bonnet log (03.26hrs), that Witham police station information room has been in contact with the information room at Chelmsford police station, to relay information about the time the occupants of CA07 were deployed to the incident, or indeed arrived there...

Clearly, whatever role the police at Witham had in this matter has been suppressed to hide the true involvement of police officers deployed by that information room, in this matter. The key to resolving what big secret Essex police have for nigh on 30 years been trying to keep the lid on, can be unravelled and reconstructed by the roles played by the occupants of CA05 (03.31hrs), and CA07 (03.35hrs) in the matter, who deployed them, and what expectations the two groups of police officers had in thier minds when they reached the scene, namely, CA07 at 03.48hrs, and CA05 at 04.23hrs...