The 3am telephone call. What was said ?

[lookout]

Jokes? That's truly pushing the boundaries of desperation Lookout - who jokes about killing their parents to that degree?

Because I'm of the opinion that he didn't kill anyone, joking doesn't come into the equation,but in your world my words are twisted to suit your agenda. Not nice.

[Caroline]

It puts me in mind of the sketch on the Morecambe and Wise Show with Andre Previn,when Eric Morecambe played the piano out of key. He then said he WAS playing all the right notes,but NOT necessarily in the right order.

Funny that because it puts my in mind of a sneaky, manipulating psychopath who used his mentally ill sister as a scape goat!

[lookout]

On the contrary,you're the desperate one for even thinking I'd joke over something like that.
Can I now expect your entourage to appear for more mud-slinging ? Talk about misinterpreted.

[Caroline]

Because I'm of the opinion that he didn't kill anyone, joking doesn't come into the equation,but in your world my words are twisted to suit your agenda. Not nice.

No! Joking doesn't come into it, it's fair enough to think he's innocent but to try and pass off any remarks he might have made about killing his family as a 'joke' or a 'jape' is just plain silly and a clear attempt to play down and dismiss anything negative. You have to be a pretty sick puppy to harp on about killing your family and an even sicker one to add two six year olds into the equation.

[Jane]

On the contrary,you're the desperate one for even thinking I'd joke over something like that.
Can I now expect your entourage to appear for more mud-slinging ? Talk about misinterpreted.

Lookout, you did say it put you in mind of a comedy sketch.

[Caroline]

On the contrary,you're the desperate one for even thinking I'd joke over something like that.
Can I now expect your entourage to appear for more mud-slinging ? Talk about misinterpreted.

How has what you said been misinterpreted? You just said that he probably did tell Julie he thought about killing his family but it was all just a joke!! Ha freakin ha!

Oh and I'm not responsible for the fact that other people often find what you say distasteful THIS being such an instance. You're far to quick to jump out and defend Jeremy, that you clearly don't think things through! 

[Caroline]

Lookout, you did say it put you in mind of a comedy sketch.

When Julie thought Jeremy said he wanted to murder his mum and dad - what he really said was?  not really something you're going to mistake. 

[lookout]

Funny that because it puts my in mind of a sneaky, manipulating psychopath who used his mentally ill sister as a scape goat!

That's your prerogative/mindset to believe and think like that------nobody's stopping you,but you'll look a bit sick if you're wrong.
Somehow I didn't have you down as having a sense of humour. 

[lookout]

Lookout, you did say it put you in mind of a comedy sketch.

If you want to peddle the word COMEDY------------then go ahead. I was referring to Julies testimony having been the truth,as in the sketch-------without the COMEDY,, of playing all the RIGHT notes but NOT necessarily all in the right order. In other words turning Jeremy's jokey moments into a serious scenario.
I can't explain it any other way. But help yourself how you want to take it.It doesn't surprise me.

[Jane]

If you want to peddle the word COMEDY------------then go ahead. I was referring to Julies testimony having been the truth,as in the sketch-------without the COMEDY,, of playing all the RIGHT notes but NOT necessarily all in the right order. In other words turning Jeremy's jokey moments into a serious scenario.
I can't explain it any other way. But help yourself how you want to take it.It doesn't surprise me.

I'm not sure it's possible to take the comedy OUT of Morcambe and Wise.

[lookout]

 Why should I feel as though I'M on trial too ? It's ludicrous ! All because I believe he's innocent.
How would you all have been if I was forever slagging him off ? The same,probably !!

[Caroline]

That's your prerogative/mindset to believe and think like that------nobody's stopping you,but you'll look a bit sick if you're wrong.
Somehow I didn't have you down as having a sense of humour.

Then you would be wrong about that too! However, I see nothing funny in telling someone of a plan to murder 5 people. I could never see that starting with 'Did you hear the one about ........."

[lookout]

I'm not sure it's possible to take the comedy OUT of Morcambe and Wise.

You could------without effort.

[Caroline]

Why should I feel as though I'M on trial too ? It's ludicrous ! All because I believe he's innocent.
How would you all have been if I was forever slagging him off ? The same,probably !!

Nothing to do with believing he's innocent - it's the dismissing and playing down of certain things and making them sound like everyday occurrences. You actually admitted that he most likely told Julie of his plans to kill the family - but dismissed it by passing it off as a joke. It would have been a poor joke if no one ended up dead, it's even far less so given that 5 people died. 

[Caroline]

If you want to peddle the word COMEDY------------then go ahead. I was referring to Julies testimony having been the truth,as in the sketch-------without the COMEDY,, of playing all the RIGHT notes but NOT necessarily all in the right order. In other words turning Jeremy's jokey moments into a serious scenario.
I can't explain it any other way. But help yourself how you want to take it.It doesn't surprise me.

Which part of 'I want to kill my parents' is the jokey moment?