How many people think Sheila was the shooter

[Steve_uk]

Steve, that's hugely surprising coming from you. You were previously reluctant to hear a word against her.

Well I don't know whether it necessarily constitutes criticism of her. Given that she was 20 years old and the product of a northern grammar school I doubt she was as sophisticated as some of her southern contemporaries from London.

[lookout]

She was more ahead of her game than JB was though Steve. More street-wise.

[Jane]

Come on, if you believe Jeremy is guilty how would the above be applicable to him?

A guilty Jeremy would not care about the circumstances of his birth parents, the only reason he would contact them is because he believes they could benefit his campaign financially or by other means

I don't believe it's possible to over estimate damage the initial separation from and rejection by a birth mother can do to a child who has been adopted.

[Steve_uk]

She was more ahead of her game than JB was though Steve. More street-wise.

I don't think she was particularly sophisticated for her age lookout. If her education was anything like mine it was sitting behind a wooden desk for 11 years taking orders from the teachers,then doing copious amounts of homework in the evening. Wasn't she ribbed by Jeremy for being a Goody Two Shoes?

[lookout]

To be perfectly honest I don't think Jeremy was affected by his adoption though it was plain to see that Sheila was and she was very unhappy for a long time.

[maggie]

I don't think she was particularly sophisticated for her age lookout. If her education was anything like mine it was sitting behind a wooden desk for 11 years taking orders from the teachers,then doing copious amounts of homework in the evening. Wasn't she ribbed by Jeremy for being a Goody Two Shoes?

Mine was the same Steve except I decided against the homework which meant I was in detention most Mondays after school doing 'Long Tots and Cross Tots'.
We northern girls were pretty unsophisticated but didn't realise it til we found ourselves among the self assured London girls. I can remember being in awe of such when I moved down when I was 20. This is why I am astonished at JMs behaviour with the cheque book in Oxford Street. Oxford Street was hallowed ground to my northern eyes and I wouldn't have dared to put a foot out of place there.

[Jane]

Well I don't know whether it necessarily constitutes criticism of her. Given that she was 20 years old and the product of a northern grammar school I doubt she was as sophisticated as some of her southern contemporaries from London.

Steve, comparing her to her contemporaries back in the 1980's, there was little about Julie that seemed sophisticated. I'm inclined to think she was rather old-fashioned, however, I do believe -and I suspect it had to do with her background -there to have been in her a very strong sense of self preservation and a determination to achieve -to get to the top. Academically, she was getting there. It couldn't have been easy. She had to work to manage...............then she met Jeremy and suddenly it may have looked as if she she could have it all.

[lookout]

I don't think she was particularly sophisticated for her age lookout. If her education was anything like mine it was sitting behind a wooden desk for 11 years taking orders from the teachers,then doing copious amounts of homework in the evening. Wasn't she ribbed by Jeremy for being a Goody Two Shoes?

Both were different types of education. You had one who was brought up to do as she was told and the other who had a more laid-back attitude to everything which showed with his lack of enthusiasm when it came to exams. I think possibly because Jeremy knew he had the farm to fall back on for his future whereas Julie had to knuckle under for hers if she wanted to get on in life.

[Steve_uk]

Mine was the same Steve except I decided against the homework which meant I was in detention most Mondays after school doing 'Long Tots and Cross Tots'.
We northern girls were pretty unsophisticated but didn't realise it til we found ourselves among the self assured London girls. I can remember being in awe of such when I moved down when I was 20. This is why I am astonished at JMs behaviour with the cheque book in Oxford Street. Oxford Street was hallowed ground to my northern eyes and I wouldn't have dared to put a foot out of place there.

It does seem strange maggie. Maybe Julie was more easily led than is made out.

[David1819]

I don't believe it's possible to over estimate damage the initial separation from and rejection by a birth mother can do to a child who has been adopted.

I wonder what Jeremys biological brother and sister think

[Jane]

I wonder what Jeremys biological brother and sister think

If they're not curious, I'd be very surprised.

[maggie]

If they're not curious, I'd be very surprised.

I imagine it may be very difficult for them to think about.

[David1819]

If they're not curious, I'd be very surprised.

I wonder if they even know! The parents may have decided it best never to mention Jeremy. Its possible because who in general public would know who they are to tell them?

[lookout]

It's possible that both JB's brother and sister do know. I've often thought how his bio mother must feel and whether at any time she has ever blamed herself in any way. I'm surprised that she's been able to function " normally " throughout her life with this hanging over her. Once a mother always a mother.

[Caroline]

I wonder if they even know! The parents may have decided it best never to mention Jeremy. Its possible because who in general public would know who they are to tell them?

They know and who they are has been in the public domain for quite some time.