How many people think Sheila was the shooter

[scipio_usmc]

How come Sheila had fragmented bullets in her neck, when whole bullets were recovered from head shots.

whole bullets weren't recovered.  This is what was recovered from her neck:



It is 2/3 the weight of a complete bullet, a third is missing it is not a whole bullet.

[buddy]

Whole bullets were recovered. Read the pathologists report.

[scipio_usmc]

Whole bullets were recovered. Read the pathologists report.

You have no clue what you are talking about the pathologist report doesn't say anything about the bullets he removed being whole.

Fletcher characterized certain fragments as whole bullets in his report.  None of them were actually whole, it appears that anything more than half a bullet was called whole for his purposes. No one asked him at trial what he meant in his report by whole because no one cared.  They knew that the bullets submitted at trial were the same ones Vanzis had removed.  The shape even matches the xray:

[buddy]

You have no clue what you are talking about the pathologist report doesn't say anything about the bullets he removed being whole.

Fletcher characterized certain fragments as whole bullets in his report.  None of them were actually whole, it appears that anything more than half a bullet was called whole for his purposes. No one asked him at trial what he meant in his report by whole because no one cared.  They knew that the bullets submitted at trial were the same ones Vanzis had removed.  The shape even matches the xray:

Taking your usual tack, and insulting honest people.

[scipio_usmc]

Taking your usual tack, and insulting honest people.

I posted facts and evidence that corrected all your errors/misconceptions.

[lookout]

Either Sheila had been moved or only just died.
If she'd been dead for hours,those wounds would have been " plugged " but as all pics show,it appears to be flowing ? It wouldn't do that if she'd been dead a while,so she'd either just died or had been moved and as a consequence the " plugs " would have displaced.
What's it to be ? Just died or been moved ?

[scipio_usmc]

Either Sheila had been moved or only just died.
If she'd been dead for hours,those wounds would have been " plugged " but as all pics show,it appears to be flowing ? It wouldn't do that if she'd been dead a while,so she'd either just died or had been moved and as a consequence the " plugs " would have displaced.
What's it to be ? Just died or been moved ?

The photos don't show blood to be actively flowing. 

[Jane]

Either Sheila had been moved or only just died.
If she'd been dead for hours,those wounds would have been " plugged " but as all pics show,it appears to be flowing ? It wouldn't do that if she'd been dead a while,so she'd either just died or had been moved and as a consequence the " plugs " would have displaced.
What's it to be ? Just died or been moved ?

I think it's more a question of it had (once) flowed, dried, and by the time the picture was taken, cracked.

[lookout]

The photos don't show blood to be actively flowing.

The coloured ones do just that,so there's a time difference in them being taken.
I don't believe that she had been dead for hours anyway because she's entirely the wrong facial colour.

[lookout]

I think it's more a question of it had (once) flowed, dried, and by the time the picture was taken, cracked.

It would only have cracked where it had ceased flowing and was dissipated.

[lookout]

There wouldn't have been the amount of blood if she'd been dead for hours as it would have ceased pumping out.

[vidvic]

There are no photos that show running blood. It's just not true.

[scipio_usmc]

There wouldn't have been the amount of blood if she'd been dead for hours as it would have ceased pumping out.

The blood in the photos is dry blood it is not actively flowing.  The blood in the photos was dry when the raid team entered, when she was declared dead by Dr Craig and hours later when the photos were taken.

[vidvic]

The coloured ones do just that,so there's a time difference in them being taken.
I don't believe that she had been dead for hours anyway because she's entirely the wrong facial colour.

Depends on the colour balance of the photos, which Tesco is fond of messing with. You can't judge facial colouration without seeing the originals.

[Adam]

Jeremy and supporters have claimed the blood on Sheila's neck shows she could not have been shot before 3am.

It is true the blood looks bright red and wet. But then again blood is bright red and wet.

The blood may have just dried glossy. Or the lighting and the way the picture was taken may have exaggerated the redness and brightness of the blood. Or images may have been airbrushed to highlight the redness and glossiness. The original picture certainly shows dried blood.
 
Officers observed that wet blood had pooled in the crook of Sheila’s right arm. Congealed blood had also formed in the aperture of the lower neck wound. One possibility is that when Sheila was moved by officers at the scene, this plug became detached, and allowed blood accumulated within Sheila’s neck, viscous but not yet congealed, to run thickly beyond the entrance of the wound.

Supporters claim the blood shows Sheila shot herself while everyone was outside or entering WHF. There is a thread asking why she would delay shooting herself for so long. Apart from helping Jeremy contest a future prosecution.