Colin said he would have killed June

[maggie]

I don't like saying this but it sort of gives me the creeps a bit seeing them by the side of her bed .

But I did wonder - and obviously like everything else its just a thought and not an implication of who did it . do you think for a while Sheila may have been upset and or needed calming down and it was her that laid on the bed with june whilst June read the bible to her? And Neville just went and laid on top of the  the bed for a while whilst they had a heart to heart?

I always wondered about the teddy on the bed ? Perhaps Sheila was in a state and took it in with her ?

I have also had thoughts along those lines Jan, this may account for Sheila's presence and death in the main bedroom rather than the boys room.  The teddy is very incongruous and haunting somehow ....

[maggie]

My dad was a good 6'2 and took 11/12's in shoes. My 6'6 nephew takes about a 15 as they are " hand- made " by a chap in Liverpool who caters for the big'uns. I could do with a pair of his old ones to put outside the front door.

15s.......  OMG they would look just the job with some tulips in lookout 

[Jane]

I have also had thoughts along those lines Jan, this may account for Sheila's presence and death in the main bedroom rather than the boys room.  The teddy is very incongruous and haunting somehow ....

There are some things which are uncomfortable to think about.

[Jan]

it might explain why the bed looked liked someone had just laid on top .

He may just have been resting whilst June and Sheila were talking and then just fell asleep and then with everything that went on did not get time to put his slippers on?

[Jane]

it might explain why the bed looked liked someone had just laid on top .

He may just have been resting whilst June and Sheila were talking and then just fell asleep and then with everything that went on did not get time to put his slippers on?

I find it unbelievably poignant to think that in the final moments before their deaths Sheila and June may have reached an understanding.

[lookout]

I had a thought like that with seeing his slipper underneath her bed.

I also think that Sheila was sitting on the floor propped up against the bed-table reading the Bible before being shot.

[Jane]

I had a thought like that with seeing his slipper underneath her bed.

I also think that Sheila was sitting on the floor propped up against the bed-table reading the Bible before being shot.

June was shot in bed. Neville was shot, from the door, because of the left side wounds, sitting on the bed. Yet Sheila wasn't shot?

[lookout]

June was shot in bed. Neville was shot, from the door, because of the left side wounds, sitting on the bed. Yet Sheila wasn't shot?

Not at the point where she was reading the Bible,obviously.

[Caroline]

I don't like saying this but it sort of gives me the creeps a bit seeing them by the side of her bed .

But I did wonder - and obviously like everything else its just a thought and not an implication of who did it . do you think for a while Sheila may have been upset and or needed calming down and it was her that laid on the bed with june whilst June read the bible to her? And Neville just went and laid on top of the  the bed for a while whilst they had a heart to heart?

I always wondered about the teddy on the bed ? Perhaps Sheila was in a state and took it in with her ?

I think it's very possible that Sheila slept in the main bedroom that night and that Nevill stayed in her room. It would explain why she was in that room on that side of the bed and it also explain the slippers being in her room. Perhaps she slept there to be closer to the twins and because she was so quiet, her parents may have thought it best she wasn't on her own.

The bear belonged to Nevill Jan - he'd had it a long time. June hated it.

[maggie]

I think it's very possible that Sheila slept in the main bedroom that night and that Nevill stayed in her room. It would explain why she was in that room on that side of the bed and it also explain the slippers being in her room. Perhaps she slept there to be closer to the twins and because she was so quiet, her parents may have thought it best she wasn't on her own.

The bear belonged to Nevill Jan - he'd had it a long time. June hated it.

  I'm not surprised June hated it 

[Jane]

I think it's very possible that Sheila slept in the main bedroom that night and that Nevill stayed in her room. It would explain why she was in that room on that side of the bed and it also explain the slippers being in her room. Perhaps she slept there to be closer to the twins and because she was so quiet, her parents may have thought it best she wasn't on her own.

The bear belonged to Nevill Jan - he'd had it a long time. June hated it.

Actually Caroline, perhaps that scenario makes the jigsaw pieces fit. Supposing Sheila is on/in the bed with June when Jeremy bursts in. He incapacitates June but Sheila cowers on the floor beside the bed. Neville comes in as June is trying to make her way round the bed to Sheila. Jeremy may have ordered him to sit down on the bed before shooting him. He may have managed to get down the stairs whilst Jeremy was shooting Sheila.......................it doesn't work as well when it's written down

[scipio_usmc]

I think it's very possible that Sheila slept in the main bedroom that night and that Nevill stayed in her room. It would explain why she was in that room on that side of the bed and it also explain the slippers being in her room. Perhaps she slept there to be closer to the twins and because she was so quiet, her parents may have thought it best she wasn't on her own.

The bear belonged to Nevill Jan - he'd had it a long time. June hated it.

It doesn't compute that June would be shot 6 times, Nevill would come in and be shot 4 times then the struggle happen downstairs and yet Sheila just stay there in the bedroom waiting for Jeremy to return.  She would have ran to get her kids to try to hide them or get them out of the house if she was there seeing her mother get shot next to her and then her father enter and be shot 4 times.

[Caroline]

It doesn't compute that June would be shot 6 times, Nevill would come in and be shot 4 times then the struggle happen downstairs and yet Sheila just stay there in the bedroom waiting for Jeremy to return.  She would have ran to get her kids to try to hide them or get them out of the house if she was there seeing her mother get shot next to her and then her father enter and be shot 4 times.

She may not have been shot 6 times all in one go, she had enough strength to walk around the room. Perhaps Sheila even received the first shot at this point which is why June walked around the other side of the bed? However, I'm not convinced that Sheila wasn't part of it, albeit in a (somewhat) passive sense.

[lookout]

So much movement around the farmhouse. It could have been swiftly done without anyone moving from their beds ?
If it had been Jeremy,he'd have forced the three adults to have stayed put. Nobody tackles a gunman who fires round after round. How and why did Neville end up in the kitchen instead of being with his wife and daughter ? 

[Caroline]

So much movement around the farmhouse. It could have been swiftly done without anyone moving from their beds ?
If it had been Jeremy,he'd have forced the three adults to have stayed put. Nobody tackles a gunman who fires round after round. How and why did Neville end up in the kitchen instead of being with his wife and daughter ?

Would he? You know this because?