Colin said he would have killed June

[Jane]

]If you're wrong, you're wrong, you have no control over it - unless of course when you are wrong, you never admit it.

From the sounds of it, that's closer to the mark, Caroline, as in, it MUST be someone else's fault I came to that decision because they misinformed me/put a comma in the wrong place. Our Lookout appears to have more in common with Scipio than she'd care to admit

[lookout]

No humility there, then. You must think you share space with God. Omnipotent.

Jane,strict discipline in a nursing career means that you can NEVER be wrong----------or else. It's about decision making and you can't afford to make bad ones when people's lives are at stake. The same discipline has carried me through my life,it never leaves you.Plus the upbringing I had.

[lookout]

It's a tad childish to make comparisons with " God ". I didn't expect it of you.!

[Caroline]

From the sounds of it, that's closer to the mark, Caroline, as in, it MUST be someone else's fault I came to that decision because they misinformed me/put a comma in the wrong place. Our Lookout appears to have more in common with Scipio than she'd care to admit

And Jeremy's idea of a MOJ 

[Caroline]

Jane,strict discipline in a nursing career means that you can NEVER be wrong----------or else. It's about decision making and you can't afford to make bad ones when people's lives are at stake. The same discipline has carried me through my life,it never leaves you.Plus the upbringing I had.

So nurses never make bad decisions? Of course they do!!!!! The police have the same discipline - they're never wrong either, are they?? 

[Jane]

Jane,strict discipline in a nursing career means that you can NEVER be wrong----------or else. It's about decision making and you can't afford to make bad ones when people's lives are at stake. The same discipline has carried me through my life,it never leaves you.Plus the upbringing I had.

Whilst that is highly commendable, Lookout, I'm very surprised that someone higher up the chain didn't remind you about humanity and humility.

[Jane]

It's a tad childish to make comparisons with " God ". I didn't expect it of you.!

Yes, it was. My apologies. It was unworthy of me.

[lookout]

Whilst that is highly commendable, Lookout, I'm very surprised that someone higher up the chain didn't remind you about humanity and humility.

Humanity went with the territory of nursing.Humility isn't something that describes me at best.Humility comes from achievement which,seeing that I haven't experienced wars/terrorism where soldiers/servicemen/women fought,without thought for their own welfare or safety.Now that IS a humbling act of bravery.
Humility is best left to those deserving of it.   

[Jane]

Humanity went with the territory of nursing.Humility isn't something that describes me at best.Humility comes from achievement which,seeing that I haven't experienced wars/terrorism where soldiers/servicemen/women fought,without thought for their own welfare or safety.Now that IS a humbling act of bravery.
Humility is best left to those deserving of it.   

Actually, showing humility is having the ability to step down and have the courage to own one's own mistakes. However, as you assure us that you're never wrong, I guess you can be forgiven for having no understanding of its' true meaning.

[scipio_usmc]

Maggie/Steve, for many, in adult life, the more money they have, the more they feel loved and valued. The other big problem to raise its' head can be sexual promiscuity. It begins, in children, as a deep yearning to be touched and cuddled -especially with those children who see other children receiving this attention- unfortunately, at puberty, the need becomes exacerbated by hormones running riot and sex then equates with the love they never felt they received. I WILL add, before I'm jumped on from a great height that not ALL unloved children react like this, neither is it JUST the reserve of adopted children.

I have found the complete opposite to be true.  People who want love and affection and simply are given money and gifts do not equate money with love and feel cheated.

[Jane]

I have found the complete opposite to be true.  People who want love and affection and simply are given money and gifts do not equate money with love and feel cheated.

That comes as no surprise. But I share the opinion of psychologists who say, if a child is taught by parents whose approval it seeks, that money is the most important thing in life and sees the fact demonstrated/reenforced, it WILL feel wonderful -they must love me to spend all this on me- when such an immense and important commodity is bestowed on them in the form of gifts/bribes. I concur, that as realization sets in, so too, may the feeling of being bought off/cheated, but like the drug addict who feels better with the next fix, the next gift will make them feel better/LOVED for a time.

[maggie]

That comes as no surprise. But I share the opinion of psychologists who say, if a child is taught by parents whose approval it seeks, that money is the most important thing in life and sees the fact demonstrated/reenforced, it WILL feel wonderful -they must love me to spend all this on me- when such an immense and important commodity is bestowed on them in the form of gifts/bribes. I concur, that as realization sets in, so too, may the feeling of being bought off/cheated, but like the drug addict who feels better with the next fix, the next gift will make them feel better/LOVED for a time.

It makes sense to me, Jane.

[Jane]

It makes sense to me, Jane.

Thanks Maggie. I fail to see how people cannot take on board how it's simplicity itself to use daily drips of reinforcement to indoctrinate a child. Perhaps if I called it "grooming from an early age" it would be more understandable.

[maggie]

Thanks Maggie. I fail to see how people cannot take on board how it's simplicity itself to use daily drips of reinforcement to indoctrinate a child. Perhaps if I called it "grooming from an early age" it would be more understandable.

People do it all the time, they buy something to make them feel happy/alive and after a few weeks it's old hat and they want another fix.   Pretty sad really.

[susan]

I have found the complete opposite to be true.  People who want love and affection and simply are given money and gifts do not equate money with love and feel cheated.

Scipio
I see where you are coming from quite often parents shower their kids with material things because they do not have the time to give them love and attention and children do sense this and can feel let down when the novelty of the gifts has worn off.  Sad really.