The Kitchen Magazine rack

[lookout]

Could it have been hidden behind the directories here: http://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/telephones

Plenty of room there too.

[maggie]

Could it have been hidden behind the directories here: http://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/telephones

I think that's where I originally believed it was found, Steve.  The thinking was it may have slipped down the back of the mags or had been hidden amongst the papers.  It may even have just been on the top of the oven and had been knocked behind it.

[Caroline]

Could it have been hidden behind the directories here: http://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/telephones

Cheers Steve, much better picture. I've blown it up as far as I can without it being distorted.

[Caroline]

I think that's where I originally believed it was found, Steve.  The thinking was it may have slipped down the back of the mags or had been hidden amongst the papers.  It may even have just been on the top of the oven and had been knocked behind it.

It wasn't behind, Jean B said she found it 'in the middle of the pile'. She said the magazines had been there a long while. I find it hard to understand how the phone could end up in the middle of the pile if they had been there for quite sometime - without someone putting it there deliberately?

[lookout]

It might just have been put there pro-tem until the family found another home for it seeing as they moved them around quite often,as JB never knew where each one would be from one week to another.

[scipio_usmc]

It wasn't behind, Jean B said she found it 'in the middle of the pile'. She said the magazines had been there a long while. I find it hard to understand how the phone could end up in the middle of the pile if they had been there for quite sometime - without someone putting it there deliberately?

How would a phone get there period without someone putting it there intentionally?

[maggie]

It wasn't behind, Jean B said she found it 'in the middle of the pile'. She said the magazines had been there a long while. I find it hard to understand how the phone could end up in the middle of the pile if they had been there for quite sometime - without someone putting it there deliberately?

If it was in the middle it may very well have been hidden in there that's true.  No offence to any of them but that area of the house seemed to be very chaotic, who knows how the phone got where it was found?

[maggie]

How would a phone get there period without someone putting it there intentionally?

Why was it necessary to go to the trouble of hiding phones and moving phones? 
There was only one phone line at WHF so wouldn't it have been easier to just remove the handset from the phone on entering the house, or am I missing the point?  Surely that would have stopped anyone phoning from the bedroom?

[Jane]

How would a phone get there period without someone putting it there intentionally?

How, indeed? One answer -other that the one you suggest- is that the kitchen was a general chaos area and that any magazine/newspaper was kept for an indefinite period. The top of any pile may have been a convenient place to lodge something which would either be moved later or become buried. Certainly no one living there suffered with OCD.

[maggie]

How, indeed? One answer -other that the one you suggest- is that the kitchen was a general chaos area and that any magazine/newspaper was kept for an indefinite period. The top of any pile may have been a convenient place to lodge something which would either be moved later or become buried. Certainly no one living there suffered with OCD.

[lookout]

Why was it necessary to go to the trouble of hiding phones and moving phones? 
There was only one phone line at WHF so wouldn't it have been easier to just remove the handset from the phone on entering the house?  Surely that would have stopped anyone phoning from the bedroom?

I wonder if Sheila was sneaking it somewhere in order to phone Christine so that nobody would listen in to the conversation. 

[scipio_usmc]

Why was it necessary to go to the trouble of hiding phones and moving phones? 
There was only one phone line at WHF so wouldn't it have been easier to just remove the handset from the phone on entering the house, or am I missing the point?  Surely that would have stopped anyone phoning from the bedroom?

What if they heard him opening the window and used the phone to call police before he even had a chance to get inside to disable the phone?  The result of that would be that police could come there and catch him in the act or catch him leaving. That would be catastrophic.

People used to cut phone lines before they broke into a house for a reason.  With the dominance of cell phones criminals have it worse now and have to simply hope no one will call police before they can reach the victim.

[Jane]

I wonder if Sheila was sneaking it somewhere in order to phone Christine so that nobody would listen in to the conversation.

Yes. I imagine conversation would be really clear from an unplugged phone.Perhaps she thought if the phone wasn't plugged in, the call wouldn't be recorded and June and Neville wouldn't know she'd made the call.

[lookout]

Yes. I imagine conversation would be really clear from an unplugged phone.Perhaps she thought if the phone wasn't plugged in, the call wouldn't be recorded and June and Neville wouldn't know she'd made the call.

D'oh,it would have depended where the points were in which to plug the phone in  Did you know where they were situated ?
I would have imagined that Sheila wanted to have a conversation free from being interrupted or cut-off whether she was phoning Christine or any of her friends,as well as not disturbing anyone in the household. Besides it being an easier one to dial and use.
Why would Sheila have been bothered about it having been " recorded ?". The only time you could ring Canada in peace is when it's our night-time anyway 5 to 8 hours behind us depending which state. The children and June were in bed.Neville would have been walking the dogs and Sheila probably couldn't sleep.

[Jane]

D'oh,it would have depended where the points were in which to plug the phone in  Did you know where they were situated ?
I would have imagined that Sheila wanted to have a conversation free from being interrupted or cut-off whether she was phoning Christine or any of her friends,as well as not disturbing anyone in the household. Besides it being an easier one to dial and use.
Why would Sheila have been bothered about it having been " recorded ?". The only time you could ring Canada in peace is when it's our night-time anyway 5 to 8 hours behind us depending which state. The children and June were in bed.Neville would have been walking the dogs and Sheila probably couldn't sleep.

I think the whole conversation is hypothetical, about what you seem to think was Sheila's relationship with Christine. It's HIGHLY unlikely, given that Christine's family knew nothing of Sheila's existence, that she'd even have Christine's phone number. I think you're desperately trying to expand their relationship into something it never was.