ANTHONY PARGETER

[scipio_usmc]

That's not what I asked - how do you know he told the police his rifle was not there .

He still does not mention it in his third and fourth interviews

They are statements not interviews. No matter how many times it is pointed out that a record of the interviews was not kept you still choose to ignore it and pretend that the statements are a record of the interviews and are the only things said to police.

COLP details how police physically touched his rifle and moderator while they were interviewing him thus they knew it was in his possession not at WHF.  Furthermore, they knew from those who searched WHF that it was not found there.

 

[Jan]

They are statements not interviews. No matter how many times it is pointed out that a record of the interviews was not kept you still choose to ignore it and pretend that the statements are a record of the interviews and are the only things said to police.

COLP details how police physically touched his rifle and moderator while they were interviewing him thus they knew it was in his possession not at WHF.  Furthermore, they knew from those who searched WHF that it was not found there.

 

that's all you had to say its in the COLP  interview . I was beginning to think you were psychic or something.

I will go and check.

[Jan]

well excuse me - in my fantasy land he is pretty contradictory.

[Jan]

I moved it because it was not in the place it was habitually kept .

 I never habitually kept it at WHF?



Really ?

[Jan]

Also this totally contradicts what he said in his earlier statements.

[scipio_usmc]

I was beginning to think you were psychic or something.

All one has to do is understand that an interview is different from a statement to recognize they asked question about things not referenced explicitly in statements.  It doesn't take any mind reading.

The easiest place to read about it is to go to AP's COLP statement and you will find where he mentions they wanted to see his gun, you will find the same in Boutflour's.

Police used the pretense of using their guns for demonstration purposes to inspect them.

[scipio_usmc]

I moved it because it was not in the place it was habitually kept .

 I never habitually kept it at WHF?



Really ?

Not in the place it was kept at WHF WHEN it was actually kept at WHF.

[Jan]

Not in the place it was kept at WHF WHEN it was actually kept at WHF.

He says in plain English I took it way because it was not in the place it was usually kept.

then he says it was not usually kept at WHF .

That contradicts what he said in his first statements

He said he kept it there and took the bolt away.


So two things spring to mind

no areas were secure with locks anyway  so what did it matter which cupboard it was in? And if he took the bolt away the gun was in effect secure anyway?

[scipio_usmc]

He says in plain English I took it way because it was not in the place it was usually kept.

then he says it was not usually kept at WHF .

That contradicts what he said in his first statements

He said he kept it there and took the bolt away.


So two things spring to mind

no areas were secure with locks anyway  so what did it matter which cupboard it was in? And if he took the bolt away the gun was in effect secure anyway?

A gun can not be used to fire bullets with the bolt missing.  You can damage the gun playing with it, can lose parts if you take it apart and there was ammunition, his moderator and scope as well inside if it.  No one should have touched it at all. That someone did made him worry about leaving it there.  Since there was now a gun that used 22 ammunition someone could use up all his ammo.  That alone is a reason to not leave it.

He didn't leave it there from the beginning to time till the murders.  He said he frequently left it there.  When he kept it there it was kept in the bathroom but was not found there when he went last.

No one found his gun there after the murders that is the main evidence that would detail whether his gun was at WHF or not. 

[Jan]

A gun can not be used to fire bullets with the bolt missing.  You can damage the gun playing with it, can lose parts if you take it apart and there was ammunition, his moderator and scope as well inside if it.  No one should have touched it at all. That someone did made him worry about leaving it there.  Since there was now a gun that used 22 ammunition someone could use up all his ammo.  That alone is a reason to not leave it.

He didn't leave it there from the beginning to time till the murders.  He said he frequently left it there.  When he kept it there it was kept in the bathroom but was not found there when he went last.

No one found his gun there after the murders that is the main evidence that would detail whether his gun was at WHF or not.
[/quiote]


so now you know what he was feeling as well as his private conversations with EP.

And Do you have a full list of the weapons and accessories that were found in WHF and "handed back" to the family?

[scipio_usmc]

A gun can not be used to fire bullets with the bolt missing.  You can damage the gun playing with it, can lose parts if you take it apart and there was ammunition, his moderator and scope as well inside if it.  No one should have touched it at all. That someone did made him worry about leaving it there.  Since there was now a gun that used 22 ammunition someone could use up all his ammo.  That alone is a reason to not leave it.

He didn't leave it there from the beginning to time till the murders.  He said he frequently left it there.  When he kept it there it was kept in the bathroom but was not found there when he went last.

No one found his gun there after the murders that is the main evidence that would detail whether his gun was at WHF or not.
[/quiote]


so now you know what he was feeling as well as his private conversations with EP.

And Do you have a full list of the weapons and accessories that were found in WHF and "handed back" to the family?

If by given back you mean those still at WHF when the police turned it over to the family the full list was established at trial and AP's rifle was not among them. The list consisted of shotguns and the air rifle. 

[Jan]

So they did go through all the gun storage areas then to itemise and list all the guns. shame they missed the silencer .

[Steve_uk]

So they did go through all the gun storage areas then to itemise and list all the guns. shame they missed the silencer .

I wonder why there were any guns kept in the downstairs shower room at all? Also I'm wondering if the reason for Jeremy replacing the sound moderator back in the gun cupboard was that Anthony had seen the new anschutz rifle with the silencer attached the week before the murders.

[scipio_usmc]

So they did go through all the gun storage areas then to itemise and list all the guns. shame they missed the silencer .

The silencer was listed among the items found by the family at WHF.  They used testimony to establish which items the police found, which items the family found and to establish they were turned over to the police by the family.  Are you new here?

[Jan]

The silencer was listed among the items found by the family at WHF.  They used testimony to establish which items the police found, which items the family found and to establish they were turned over to the police by the family.  Are you new here?

No I was being sarcastic. You reduce me to that sometimes.

A temporary lapse in my sense of humour.