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« Reply #375 on: August 15, 2015, 05:18:PM »
I think your last sentence is assumption you do not know the order of the shootings as it has never been proven. And if you backed up against that bedside table I bet you the lamp would at least topple over .

And he still had to get her in the right position to get the shots to look like suicide that is not a simple thing to do .

1) I do know the general order of the shots I presented a very detailed assessment of such.

2) That assessment makes it quite clear that either the boys were killed last or Sheila was killed last.  Logically Sheila would be the last one killed and the only way she would not be killed last would be if she was out of her room when Jeremy walked up from the kitchen after killing Nevill there

3) If Sheila was still in bed and thus the boys were killed before her then Jeremy woke her she would not have known they were dead.  Thus he could threaten to harm them unless she complied and she would not know he had already murdered them.  I have pointed this out countless times in the past.   
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« Reply #376 on: August 15, 2015, 05:20:PM »
it sort of looks like another book?

It is simply the tops of the socks side by side, because of the distance and low quality you can't see the space gap between the socks you only see that when you look at photos that are clear and taken close up:

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« Reply #377 on: August 15, 2015, 05:26:PM »
It is simply the tops of the socks side by side, because of the distance and low quality you can't see the space gap between the socks you only see that when you look at photos that are clear and taken close up:



thank you

it is a photo of a photo so it is not very clear .


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« Reply #378 on: August 15, 2015, 06:09:PM »
thank you

it is a photo of a photo so it is not very clear .

From a distance the gap becomes much smaller and thus less noticeable and in a blurry photo it just blends into the background. 
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« Reply #379 on: August 15, 2015, 06:43:PM »
Why was June wearing socks like that in mid-summer ?

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« Reply #380 on: August 15, 2015, 06:47:PM »
Why was June wearing socks like that in mid-summer ?

They were Nevill's socks. He had them on the floor on his side of the bed.  Presumably he took them off before getting into bed or less likely took out new socks to leave on the floor to put on when he got up. June simply bled on them when she walked near them.  The blood got on them while no feet were in them. 
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« Reply #381 on: August 15, 2015, 07:20:PM »
They were Nevill's socks. He had them on the floor on his side of the bed.  Presumably he took them off before getting into bed or less likely took out new socks to leave on the floor to put on when he got up. June simply bled on them when she walked near them.  The blood got on them while no feet were in them.






It was June's blood which was found on them.

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« Reply #382 on: August 15, 2015, 07:24:PM »
And yet as Sheila was guided into the corner to be shot she did not get blood from june on her feet or disturb the socks . Its odd.

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« Reply #383 on: August 15, 2015, 10:01:PM »


Do you Believe he is guilty or do you Know he is guilty?


I think only one person knows

Poor argument imo... I've heard this said a few times in other cases... If this were the case then why have a criminal justice system in the first place? If only the 'killer' knows?
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« Reply #384 on: August 15, 2015, 10:04:PM »

I have never decided one way or another. I don't put any emotional investment in these situations so I don't care if he is guilty or is not guilty. My verdict is open therefore I have nothing to lose.

There are times when I decide he must be guilty and try to stick to it but there is part of me that is never satisfied with believing in guilt. When I start believing he is guilty its never a solid belief there is always a nudge in the back of my mind telling me something is not write about it  :-\

So you'd happily spend a weekend with him in a caravan for example, with only you and him and a gun for company?
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« Reply #385 on: August 15, 2015, 10:19:PM »
Poor argument imo... I've heard this said a few times in other cases... If this were the case then why have a criminal justice system in the first place? If only the 'killer' knows?

there are not many cases like this one to be fair where there are no definite forensics linking him to the crime and the main evidence is he must of done it because Sheila could not of done it ( disputed by several experts)

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« Reply #386 on: August 15, 2015, 10:22:PM »
Its not that simple. I would have to built allot of rapport with him over many letters and use many mind game tactics to get anything useful out of him without him working it out. Not easy

You'd not make a very good detective then.... Why the need for mind games? Wouldn't simple, straight forward questions suffice?
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« Reply #387 on: August 15, 2015, 10:23:PM »
So you have decided the man is guilty because of the way he has written back to you?

That's not good judgment if you ask me.

And of course your judgement is far superior  ::)
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« Reply #388 on: August 15, 2015, 10:28:PM »
Poor argument imo... I've heard this said a few times in other cases... If this were the case then why have a criminal justice system in the first place? If only the 'killer' knows?


Why have a criminal justice system? To protect the public from dangerous people and segregate those who cannot function in a civilised society.

The standard of proof used to convict defendants in our system is "beyond reasonable doubt" to many people there is reasonable doubt in Jeremy's case.

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« Reply #389 on: August 15, 2015, 10:32:PM »
So you'd happily spend a weekend with him in a caravan for example, with only you and him and a gun for company?


Yeah why not. He is not mentioned in my will so id be fine.   ;D