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Re: Deviant. Paul Harrison's book.
« Reply #360 on: August 15, 2015, 01:06:PM »
in the archives there is a picture MB8 ( june and nevilles bedroom) and this picture is a different angle of the scene and you can just see the bible in situ. Can anyone explain what there is on the photo where the socks are, something black ? To her left hand side. I know its difficult because its a photo of a photo but you can see the bible and this object looks darker?

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Re: Deviant. Paul Harrison's book.
« Reply #361 on: August 15, 2015, 01:06:PM »
Falling off the bed, after the massacre. Then being kicked around Sheila and ending up on top of Sheila's blood ?

As Matt Houston said to a beautiful lady after she said to him 'maybe you could try that on me sometime' -  'it's a thought'.
It could have fallen off the bed during the massacre, who knows? Not you that's a certainty unless you were there.

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« Reply #362 on: August 15, 2015, 01:13:PM »
according to Colin religion was causing a problem between Sheila and June. If June was shot as some said sitting up in bed then perhaps she was reading the bible and the blood was hers and not from the carpet at all . As I think the bible was destroyed I am not sure we will ever know .
 

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Re: Deviant. Paul Harrison's book.
« Reply #363 on: August 15, 2015, 01:15:PM »
It could have fallen off the bed during the massacre, who knows? Not you that's a certainty unless you were there.

Fallen off the bed onto Sheila's blood during the massacre ?

As Matt Houston said....
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'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Deviant. Paul Harrison's book.
« Reply #364 on: August 15, 2015, 02:40:PM »
in the archives there is a picture MB8 ( june and nevilles bedroom) and this picture is a different angle of the scene and you can just see the bible in situ. Can anyone explain what there is on the photo where the socks are, something black ? To her left hand side. I know its difficult because its a photo of a photo but you can see the bible and this object looks darker?

This one? I can see the bible and the sock but not sure what else you mean?
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« Reply #365 on: August 15, 2015, 02:42:PM »






So either DC Mick Clark is lying or AE is.

No, AE got the wrong end of the stick - this has been discussed a million times.
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« Reply #366 on: August 15, 2015, 02:50:PM »
PC's Collins and Delgado had no recollection at all of seeing the gun,as they'd been querying the position of Sheila's body anyway. They had seen the Bible on the floor next to Sheila's waist after it had previously been reported to have been on her chest.

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« Reply #367 on: August 15, 2015, 02:52:PM »
I do have to say that it is a bit weird that Delgado and Collins used 'exactly' the same words to describe seeing the rifle on top of Sheila.
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Re: Deviant. Paul Harrison's book.
« Reply #368 on: August 15, 2015, 04:25:PM »
yes the bible is up high to the left

but does that look just like a pair of light blue socks? Perhaps I am seeing things it just seems too dark and the wrong shape?

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Re: Deviant. Paul Harrison's book.
« Reply #369 on: August 15, 2015, 04:26:PM »
it sort of looks like another book?

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Re: Deviant. Paul Harrison's book.
« Reply #370 on: August 15, 2015, 04:29:PM »
Fallen off the bed onto Sheila's blood during the massacre ?

As Matt Houston said....
I didn't mention Sheila's blood I was talking about JUNE's hand pressing on the bible as she tried to get off the bed after being shot.  I am not saying this is what happened, I am just saying it COULD have happened that way but that doesn't mean Sheila had clean palms either. ;D
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Re: Deviant. Paul Harrison's book.
« Reply #371 on: August 15, 2015, 04:31:PM »
I still can not understand why there are no pictures or lamps  or items knocked over and disturbed on that side of the room whilst JB was trying to guide her back into that corner to be shot - if he did do it she never fought back not one little bit - which is against every human emotion and reaction. What is the mark on the carpet leading from her foot a dark wiggly line?

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« Reply #372 on: August 15, 2015, 04:39:PM »
I still can not understand why there are no pictures or lamps  or items knocked over and disturbed on that side of the room whilst JB was trying to guide her back into that corner to be shot - if he did do it she never fought back not one little bit - which is against every human emotion and reaction. What is the mark on the carpet leading from her foot a dark wiggly line?

She had a gun pointed at her and if she tried to attack him she would be shot. She didn't know he was planning to claim she committed suicide and thus that if she turned her back to him he would not be able to fire at her.  People are usually scared when a gun is pointed at them and do as they are told. A minority of people have the courage/presence of mind to fight back and even then you need to do it at the right time to be successful.  If you act at the wrong time you are going to get shot as you attempt it.

He had an additional card to play he could have told her to comply or he would kill her boys. 

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Re: Deviant. Paul Harrison's book.
« Reply #373 on: August 15, 2015, 04:42:PM »
in the archives there is a picture MB8 ( june and nevilles bedroom) and this picture is a different angle of the scene and you can just see the bible in situ. Can anyone explain what there is on the photo where the socks are, something black ? To her left hand side. I know its difficult because its a photo of a photo but you can see the bible and this object looks darker?

There is nothing on the socks.  The tip of the socks are side by side while the lower portion of the socks are on top of one another. That is why it looks fatter at the top.

 
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Re: Deviant. Paul Harrison's book.
« Reply #374 on: August 15, 2015, 04:44:PM »
She had a gun pointed at her and if she tried to attack him she would be shot. She didn't know he was planning to claim she committed suicide and thus that if she turned her back to him he would not be able to fire at her.  People are usually scared when a gun is pointed at them and do as they are told. A minority of people have the courage/presence of mind to fight back and even then you need to do it at the right time to be successful.  If you act at the wrong time you are going to get shot as you attempt it.

He had an additional card to play he could have told her to comply or he would kill her boys.

I think your last sentence is assumption you do not know the order of the shootings as it has never been proven. And if you backed up against that bedside table I bet you the lamp would at least topple over .

And he still had to get her in the right position to get the shots to look like suicide that is not a simple thing to do .